Livestreamed Conversation - The value of a man with Yetineti

[Asayake]

Will check a bit later! Some stuff turned up

[yetineti]

What’d I do @LordFall?

We were having a good conversation and you left!

Edited 17 hours ago by yetineti

[LordFall]

@yetineti We set a topic and you spent an hour and half not answering the question and then questioning why you should even answer. I think I made my points quite simple and clear but the conversation was not productive and going in circle.

The VOD is up for those who couldn't watch it live, thanks for everyone that came on and asked questions! 

 

[Yimpa]

14 minutes ago, yetineti said:

What’d I do @LordFall?

We were having a good conversation and you left!

 

[yetineti]

@LordFall

That is why you rage quit? I was just about to tell you what it is about me that makes me valuable!

But I don’t owe you any qualifications and I apologize for my lack of clarity and your misunderstanding of the topic.

I tried to clarify your and my own thesis before hand and make this a proper debate.

I offered to tell you about myself. I just wanted to make sure, if I didn’t tell you, you wouldn’t make any assumptions.

More than fair for me to ensure good faith.

But it is public for everyone to see now. Don’t even try to delete it! I have my own copy.

 

Edited 17 hours ago by yetineti

[Yimpa]

@yetineti Random comment (again), but you are really handsome  

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 minute ago, Yimpa said:

@yetineti Random comment (again), but you are really handsome  

Seconded!

[yetineti]

@Yimpa @Natasha Tori Maru

Thank you, ladies.

[Ulax]

Damn I missed it

[Ulax]

38 minutes in... dissapointed my name hasn't been mentioned but impressed by  the mature discussion so far 

[Ulax]

Yeti started well but was being evasive in the last third 

[yetineti]

@Ulax
 

Let’s do our own live stream and like every working relationship—I give you something, you give me something.

You want me to disclose my private life and convince you I’m valuable?

Convince me that the time it takes me to do that is valuable. For us, it may be. For LordFall and I, it became too apparent he has his assumptions.

If someone says ‘If you don’t tell me how you're valuable, I’ll assume you’re not’—that’s bad faith, and frankly a tactic used frequently in abusive relationships or, to be fair, business.

So, if that makes me evasive—yeah I wasn’t going to qualify myself to someone. I live my life in a way where I don’t have to. If you guys don’t want to, you don’t have to either. I’d just call that fair.

I don’t engage in bad faith beyond reason. I gave LordFall endless chances. He’s slippery.

You might be different. Want to talk? I’m more than open to having discussions and even disclosing aspects of my life to people that are supportive and helpful.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by yetineti

[Xonas Pitfall]

I think it could be helpful in future livestreams to bring up some concrete examples, such as specific forum posts, comments, or answers that you two have debated. It would be interesting to see when something was stated, what the actual context was, and what each of you considers valuable or not.

Otherwise, I feel like it can be quite easy for both sides to get stuck discussing things in the abstract, which makes it harder to really move the conversation forward.

Just a general suggestion for the livestream format! 

[Ulax]

28 minutes ago, yetineti said:

@Ulax
 

Let’s do our own live stream and like every working relationship—I give you something, you give me something.

You want me to disclose my private life and convince you I’m valuable?

Convince me that the time it takes me to do that is valuable. For us, it may be. For LordFall and I, it became too apparent he has his assumptions.

If someone says ‘If you don’t tell me how’re you're valuable, I’ll assume you’re not’—that’s bad faith, and frankly a tactic used frequently in abusive relationships.

I don’t engage in bad faith beyond reason. I gave LordFall endless chances. He’s slippery.

You might be different. Want to talk?

 

You are a handsome chap so I would agree but you didn't shout me out in the stream. So i am VERY angry and will therefore decline 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I think it was a foregone conclusion based on the premise and topic being undefined. 

Either the topic needed to be concrete or a moderator was always going to be needed to check and resteer.

[Schizophonia]

@LordFall Do you want to have a debate in January or February. I need a reason to work on my English.

 

edit I'm trolling below but I'm serious.

Edited 10 hours ago by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

We’ll debate which actualizer has the prettiest legs.

 

 @Yimpa with all that E2 he's having with her cornflakes is she going to dethrone the queen @Sugarcoat

Edited 9 hours ago by Schizophonia

[yetineti]

 

[yetineti]

2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I think it was a foregone conclusion based on the premise and topic being undefined. 

Either the topic needed to be concrete or a moderator was always going to be needed to check and resteer.

I thought about a mod. I’m open to that.

I think we each had our own concrete topics, in the discussion haha.

Edited 9 hours ago by yetineti

[LordFall]

To me, it felt like we got caught in a filibuster. To be fair to Yeti, he was aiming for an open-ended, exploratory dialogue, but we set a specific topic meant to explore how we practically provide value to those around us—and how each of us approaches that.

When the response shifted to indignation that the question was even being asked, the conversation lost its structure and began moving in circles. While I appreciate him coming on and being willing to chat, I had to call it once we were spending more time debating the premise than exploring the topic itself.

Appreciate the feedback from everyone, future streams will have clearer guardrails, hard time limits, and tighter moderation so expectations are aligned from the start.

Edited 5 hours ago by LordFall