9/11, 25 Years Later

[Raze]

5 hours ago, enchanted said:

Controversial opinion: I honestly don't get why 9/11 is so different from any act of war that's happening around the world? Is it just because it happened close to home? Or was it the sheer ingenuity/success/scale of the attack? 

The colonial powers ripped themselves apart in world war 1 (and then later WW2) over seemingly no reason (I.e arms race and Franz Ferdinand killed). Shouldn't The West be used to senseless wars? 

Please enlighten me. I'm curious why 9/11 is so different? 

Because it happened to the US, it was a large amount of civilians in a singular event.

Edited Friday at 08:37 PM by Raze

[Raze]

 

[Ajay0]

As per some scholars, the date September 11, 2001,  was chosen by Islamic terrorists because of the european victory over the Turks on September 11,1683 in the battle of Vienna, which broke Turkish power permanently.

  After this battle, the Turks would gain no further ground in Europe and would never again challenge Vienna though they engaged in the Greek, Assyrian and Armenian genocides later on. The grooming gang scandal in the UK is  an another recent manifestation of religious prejudice and hatred of some demented Islamists. 

A core belief in traditional and political Islam is that God's law (Sharia) is best for global society, and most Islamists want governments to use Sharia instead of Western legal systems.

Taliban and the later ISIS were considered to be the epitome of an ideal society, and the Islamists felt that it was their holy mission and act of compassion to deliver Sharia governance to other countries as well even if it includes extreme violence.

Public opinion polls however show that most everyday Muslims want democracy and fair legal systems, viewing their faith as a personal and moral guide rather than a tool for global conquest. They are fed up of fatwas, beheadings and amputations , lack of music and entertainment considered as Haram by the authorities. The women detest polygamy and talaq (instant divorce), burqas and other sharia rules but have to comply submissively fearing brutal punishment, and even endorse the same due to stockholm syndrome.

Even liberal Islamic sects like sufism and Ahmediyas emphasizing music and scholarship respectively have been subject to persecution by the Islamists for having differences with mainstream Islamic doctrine.

Some Islamic leaders  have also endorsed use of wmd against western targets . Vigilance and pragmatism is key to preventing such weaponry ending up in the hands of terrorists.

[enchanted]

16 hours ago, Raze said:

 

I used to love Chomsky but his constant bashing of America and the West gets tiring over time. 

[enchanted]

16 hours ago, Raze said:

Because it happened to the US, it was a large amount of civilians in a singular event.

True, this is unprecedented in a way. I guess the continental US is supposed to be an untouched area. 

[Ulax]

4 minutes ago, enchanted said:

I used to love Chomsky but his constant bashing of America and the West gets tiring over time. 

 

I can't bring myself to watch him since hearing about his Epstein connections

[Leo Gura]

On 9/10/2026 at 8:30 AM, Heaven said:

Most people here supporting this attack.

What the hell kind of accusation is this?

[Butters]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What the hell kind of accusation is this?

Lots of spiritual peoples support 11:11 not 9/11 lol

[Raze]

[Vido]

@Butters AHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS SOO FUNNYY 

[trenton]

20 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What the hell kind of accusation is this?

He is probably conflating open mindedness and moral relativism mixed with compassion for evil with being a terrorist sympathizer who wants death to America by any means necessary.

In my case, I understand what would cause a person to become a terrorist and why they would want death to America, but I also recognize that beheading innocent people doesn't actually resolve the underlying grievances they have with economic exploitation. It is designed to shock and terrorize people, but isn't actually making the middle east better off by provoking Western backlash. I could simply argue that the ends don't justify the means even if somehow destroying the twin towers would end economic exploitation, which it didn't.

If a person understands evil at a deeper level, and they express this, it is common for them to be lumped together with terrorist sympathizers who share these goals. This is probably where the accusation comes from.

[Basman]

On 9/11/2026 at 5:24 PM, enchanted said:

Controversial opinion: I honestly don't get why 9/11 is so different from any act of war that's happening around the world? Is it just because it happened close to home? Or was it the sheer ingenuity/success/scale of the attack? 

Hit em right in the ego. They are used to feeling untouchable, which is why it feels surreal when a mass terrorist attack happens in one of their major cities. American exceptionalism and all that. Worse things have happened since in other countries. I really believe it is national ego.