Where Have You Had Sex?

[Inliytened1]

Just now, yetineti said:

Problem with an airport is she can leave… to anywhere! 

Problem with a train… you’re stuck with her. Until she finds a better cabin! Now you’re stuck and alone!

Yeah she can leave, but if you talk to her right, the two of you are gonna get a hotel somehwere after the plane!!  That's what I did.

And we promised to talk after...yeah, that's a fucking joke.

[Something Funny]

@Inliytened1 so that's what a middle life crisis looks like. Funny.

This is why you start working on yourself when you are young kids.

You don't want to be the guy in his 50s telling everyone: "oh yeah, I fucked Betty on the hood of my car. Those were the good ol days".

My dad's friend was once telling me how he used to workout too in his 20s, and how cool he was, while sitting there with a beer belly. Pathetic 

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

@Inliytened1 so that's what a middle life crisis looks like. Funny.

This is why you start working on yourself when you are young kids.

You don't want to be the guy in his 50s telling everyone: "oh yeah, I fucked Betty on the hood of my car. Those were the good ol days".

My dad's friend was once telling me how he used to workout too in his 20s, and how cool he was, while sitting there with a beer belly. Pathetic 

Why not?  And it wasn't Betty it was Kathy.  I spelled it with a C earlier but it is with a K.

[Thought Art]

@Inliytened1 Are you okay?

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Thought Art said:

@Inliytened1 Are you okay?

I mean i could be better if I had Kathy now

 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

22 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Inliytened1 so that's what a middle life crisis looks like. Funny.

This is why you start working on yourself when you are young kids.

You don't want to be the guy in his 50s telling everyone: "oh yeah, I fucked Betty on the hood of my car. Those were the good ol days".

My dad's friend was once telling me how he used to workout too in his 20s, and how cool he was, while sitting there with a beer belly. Pathetic 

That is rich, comming from you lol

[Inliytened1]

7 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

That is rich, comming from you lol

7 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

That is rich, comming from you lol

Jesus Christ, it's like you get old here and you're just eliminated.  You guys are a tough crowd.  

[AION]

I noticed that American girls get around the block. They are very different than Europeans who are not that wild. It was kind of a mind fuck though because they seem very innocent and I was foolish enough to treat them that way and think they are worthy of the courtesy but then I saw how they behave with other guys.  they will just mirror your naughtiness. American mindset is so different to European. It is the new versus the old. Open mindedness and sexual liberation with the good and the bad and the ugly l. Although I think the flesh won’t bring anybody happiness on the long term. Sexual hedonism is a bypass. 

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[Inliytened1]

Just now, AION said:

I noticed that American girls get around the block. They are very different than Europeans who are not that wild. It was kind of a mind fuck though because they seem very innocent but they will just mirror your naughtiness. American mindset is so different to European. It is the new versus the old. Open mindedness and sexual liberation with the good and the bad and the ugly l. Although I think the flesh won’t bring anybody happiness on the long term. Sexual hedonism is a bypass. 

They;re bad girls, but they're not relationship material.  They like to be naughty but only so much in that it pleases them

[AION]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

They;re bad girls, but they're not relationship material.  They like to be naughty but only so much in that it pleases them

If you marry a Jezebell you will spawn little Jezebells. I mean the world needs ho’s too. But I don’t want my blood line to get involved in that. I still love American girls though. They seem to have this general friendliness and openness. But mind you that I only met Americans in Europe. And those were wild and open to do crazy stuff.  There is also a different America who is conservative. Probably they are better fit to start a family. That is just my initial impression. 

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[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, AION said:

If you marry a Jezebell you will spawn little Jezebells. I mean the world needs ho’s too. But I don’t want my blood line to get involved in that. I still love American girls too. They seem to have this general friendliness and openness. But mind you that I only met Americans in Europe. And those were wild and open to do crazy stuff.  There is also a different America who is conservative. Probably they are better fit to start a family. That is just my initial impression. 

Don't let them fool you  I'd take a Europen girl any day.

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[AION]

7 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Don't let them fool you  I'd take a Europen girl any day.

For me. Depends for what I’m looking for.  

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, AION said:

For me. Depends for what I’m looking for.  

I've been with over 100 of them, it's not worth it.  You are way better off with a European chick.  Or heck, a chick from Austrialia.

Let's just bring in AI at this point.

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[something_else]

8 hours ago, LordFall said:

Equating non-monogamous women to being helpless victims from a developing nation isn't an argument—it's just your own sheltered projection. Real-world relationship dynamics are far broader than your narrow moral panic.

Exploitation does happen but to default to that when the subject is brought up highlights your shadow and operating paradigm more than being a valid critique.

 

I think it's a fair comparison. It's going to be close to impossible to maintain a harem unless there's a significant power dynamic at play.

How many women do you think grow up fantasising about being in a man's harem one day? Not many. It's not something a woman typically wants, it's something a woman tolerates in order to gain access to resources, or it's something she's manipulated into. Which means there is an exploitative power dynamic at play.

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That's like someone saying they're gonna start a business and you default to accusing them of starting a sweatshop and dumping toxic waste in 3rd world countries. 

This analogy harms your argument more than it helps it. The larger a business gets, the more unethical and exploitative it must become. There are zero businesses making hundreds of millions of dollars which don't exploit people. In the same way, the more women you bring into your harem, the more exploitation becomes necessary to maintain it.

Wanting 5 wives all to yourself is equivalent in this analogy to running a multi-billion dollar company, which cannot exist without serious exploitation. The fundamental drive creating such a business is greed, ego, status and desire, and the same is true for explicitly wanting a 5-wive harem.

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Equating non-monogamous women

I think a lot of the poly community would dislike how you use their language. There are terms in that community like "harem-building" and OPP (one penis policy) which are used to identify men who want to join the poly community as a means to building a harem to satisfy their ego and status.

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[something_else]

30 minutes ago, AION said:

I noticed that American girls get around the block. They are very different than Europeans who are not that wild. It was kind of a mind fuck though because they seem very innocent and I was foolish enough to treat them that way and think they are worthy of the courtesy but then I saw how they behave with other guys.  they will just mirror your naughtiness. American mindset is so different to European. It is the new versus the old. Open mindedness and sexual liberation with the good and the bad and the ugly l. Although I think the flesh won’t bring anybody happiness on the long term. Sexual hedonism is a bypass. 

I think this is quite a heavy generalisation. "American girls" and "European girls" are incredibly broad categories with a ton of individual variation.

Regardless, I'll take on your premise and disagree. European girls are pretty comparable culturally to American girls in their mindsets towards sex, if anything I'd argue they're more open. Especially in places like Germany, Netherlands, France, the Nordics and Spain. Not an exhaustive list either.

[Something Funny]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Why not?

Why not what? Why not make sad posts on online forums? You tell me.

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

That is rich, comming from you lol

Coming from who? Lol

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

6 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Why not what? Why not make sad posts on online forums? You tell me.

Coming from who? Lol

We can see your post history bro, it wasn't that long ago you were crying about being a virgin and how it's so hard out there for you, all other stuff I won't mention. Now you are on your high horse all of a sudden after having a sniff. That's a common annoying quality of all simps, it is what it is though I guess

[Cubbage]

Bloody hell what am I reading haha

[Alexop]

I notice some patterns in women's behavior that might explain why these pickup guys are seeing women as some emotional NPCs.

When dating, meeting a guy, getting or not getting interested in talking to a guy... they are quite robotic unfortunately. They let their feelings decide who gets the attention and sex and who doesn't. And this is why these pickup guys, who mostly spend time with women seducing them and having sex with them, see them as such.

And I also have an intense pull to get into this sick rabbit hole of generalizing women as NPCs, especially when I do everything right and get rejected by a woman because her gut told her so. We have to be very careful with this and see how our survival bias is corrupting our view on women.

Yes, while dating they can be quite illogical and make stupid decisions, ending up with the wrong people or getting stuck like a badly programmed vacuum cleaner robot. But that is mostly happening while dating guys... Outside of dating/attraction/sex, they can be very logical and reasonable. For some reason, nature has programmed them to let their gut choose who is going to have them as sexual partner, but when we look at them at work, how well they do their work, how disciplined they are, how they can accept feedback (even if some might say they don't), we see that they have many sides. And we, guys, can also let our dick get us into trouble, in the same way their gut are leading them into trouble.

And so many women are so traumatized by their childhood or past relationships that now they are overly careful and overly selective with guys. Plus all this bullshit tech like dating apps and social media overly inflating their value, giving them way more power in the dating world than they used to have. Power corrupts, trauma leads you into trouble or a lonely sad life.

They say they are happy alone. They have no idea what they are talking about. They compare being alone with being with a toxic guy. They have no idea how a truly masculine, healthy guy can make them feel. It is like night and day in difference, They could finally feel like the feminine women in the relationship that they never had the opportunity to experience yet. 

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[eos_nyxia]

20 minutes ago, something_else said:

How many women do you think grow up fantasising about being in a man's harem one day? Not many. It's not something a woman typically wants, it's something a woman tolerates in order to gain access to resources, or it's something she's manipulated into. Which means there is an exploitative power dynamic at play.

I'm a woman (for perspective) and I'm trying to reserve my judgement because it is supposed to be describing a truly consensual situation, If I ever meet such a woman, I'd like to pick her brains and see what makes her tick. Because it's so rare, it'd at least be interesting.

There's a lot of things I don't get on a personal level, but it's still worth learning about. For example: women who are more attracted to taken men. My attraction doesn't really work this way and never has, plus I have a lifelong tendency to suspect that people who make snap judgements about how safe/ worthwhile/ trustworthy a person is based on simply seeing them around other women are.... not very smart.  Unless you truly trust and respect these other women because you know them well enough and know that they are capable of sound judgement on people's characters, why would their opinion matter? Be valid in any way?

Still, I try to put myself in their shoes as much as I can. At least I want to understand how they became the way they have. Probably I would look very carefully for more subtle forms of self harm and self abnegation and not just whatever story they tell themselves and tell others, if it is there.

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I think a lot of the poly community would dislike how you use their language. There are terms in that community like "harem-building" and OPP (one penis policy) which are used to identify men who want to join the poly community as a means to building a harem to satisfy their ego and status.

It doesn't help that this particular desire is a dime a dozen and you're competing with all the other dudes who want the same thing. Saturated market, too many people looking for a unicorn (literally how the polyamory community uses the term "unicorn", an unattached bisexual woman looking to join a couple).

Women don't usually seek to be the fully committed third wheel in someone else's "more serious" primary relationship either unless they don't know that game or they have very low self esteem.