Where have you fucked a girl?

[Valach]

1 minute ago, yetineti said:

@LordFall @Inliytened1

@Inliytened1 @LordFall

Neither of you answered the criticism. You demonstrated it.

The criticism was never fear of sexuality. Nobody objecting here condemned threesomes, sexual openness or explicit conversation. What was condemned was calling women “leftovers,” “whales,” and “ugly bitches,” then treating sexual access to them as proof of male status and spiritual development.

LordFall’s response—“sexuality is not that scary”—is therefore a straw man. He replaced the argument actually presented with an imaginary fear of sex because the real argument was much harder to answer.

Then he said that mastering the universe earns a man threesomes as his “reward.” Even as a joke, that perfectly embodies the criticism: spiritual development becomes male achievement, and women become the prize awarded for it.

Inliytened1 made the underlying mentality even more explicit:

“Either that or I have the most pussy here. Either way I win.”

There is the entire thread in one sentence. Either he successfully trolls the forum or establishes superiority through the quantity of women he has fucked. Those are his two forms of “winning.” Women remain sexual inventory, while every objection becomes another opportunity to perform dominance.

This is not “getting raw.” Sexual honesty does not require describing women as animals, leftovers, weight categories or interchangeable bodies. Sexually mature people discuss promiscuity, swinging, threesomes and unconventional relationships every day without degrading anyone.

When confronted, you used nearly every avoidance mechanism available:

Critics are frightened by sexuality.

Critics are oversensitive.

Critics have exposed shadows.

Critics carry unintegrated sexual shame.

Critics lack consciousness.

Critics have no stake in the conversation.

The objectification is merely trolling, fun or male bonding.

Not one of those claims answers the criticism. They are straw men, status assertions, psychologizing and evasion.

After being directly asked to acknowledge how women were being discussed, you deliberately continued exchanging threesome stories. When Natasha independently confirmed the objection, the dispute was converted into jokes about coalitions, anime and control of the thread.

That is not transcendence. It is ironic detachment used to escape accountability.

The most revealing exchange concerned a woman who loved Inliytened1, was hurt badly enough to end the relationship and stopped speaking to him for years. The eventual conclusion was that she lacked emotional maturity. LordFall immediately validated this as a matter of “alignment.”

Her suffering became evidence of her deficiency. The men remained mature, aligned and spiritually sophisticated. That is responsibility displacement disguised as relationship wisdom.

The record is now straightforward:

Nobody condemned sexual freedom.
Nobody argued for repression.
Nobody claimed that threesomes are inherently immoral.

The criticism concerned dehumanization, hypocrisy, responsibility and a moderator’s conduct. Rather than answer it, you bragged, joked, diagnosed your critics and continued performing the behavior being criticized.

No further interpretation is necessary. Your own responses completed the argument against you.

Two sexually insecure men disguising objectification, status-seeking, and avoidance of accountability as sexual liberation and spiritual maturity.

 

 

The dating section is full of misogyny. If you came here often you would know already.

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, yetineti said:

@LordFall @Inliytened1

Neither of you answered the criticism. You demonstrated it.

The criticism was never fear of sexuality. Nobody objecting here condemned threesomes, sexual openness or explicit conversation. What was condemned was calling women “leftovers,” “whales,” and “ugly bitches,” then treating sexual access to them as proof of male status and spiritual development.

LordFall’s response—“sexuality is not that scary”—is therefore a straw man. He replaced the argument actually presented with an imaginary fear of sex because the real argument was much harder to answer.

Then he said that mastering the universe earns a man threesomes as his “reward.” Even as a joke, that perfectly embodies the criticism: spiritual development becomes male achievement, and women become the prize awarded for it.

Inliytened1 made the underlying mentality even more explicit:

“Either that or I have the most pussy here. Either way I win.”

There is the entire thread in one sentence. Either he successfully trolls the forum or establishes superiority through the quantity of women he has fucked. Those are his two forms of “winning.” Women remain sexual inventory, while every objection becomes another opportunity to perform dominance.

This is not “getting raw.” Sexual honesty does not require describing women as animals, leftovers, weight categories or interchangeable bodies. Sexually mature people discuss promiscuity, swinging, threesomes and unconventional relationships every day without degrading anyone.

When confronted, you used nearly every avoidance mechanism available:

Critics are frightened by sexuality.

Critics are oversensitive.

Critics have exposed shadows.

Critics carry unintegrated sexual shame.

Critics lack consciousness.

Critics have no stake in the conversation.

The objectification is merely trolling, fun or male bonding.

Not one of those claims answers the criticism. They are straw men, status assertions, psychologizing and evasion.

After being directly asked to acknowledge how women were being discussed, you deliberately continued exchanging threesome stories. When Natasha independently confirmed the objection, the dispute was converted into jokes about coalitions, anime and control of the thread.

That is not transcendence. It is ironic detachment used to escape accountability.

The most revealing exchange concerned a woman who loved Inliytened1, was hurt badly enough to end the relationship and stopped speaking to him for years. The eventual conclusion was that she lacked emotional maturity. LordFall immediately validated this as a matter of “alignment.”

Her suffering became evidence of her deficiency. The men remained mature, aligned and spiritually sophisticated. That is responsibility displacement disguised as relationship wisdom.

The record is now straightforward:

Nobody condemned sexual freedom.
Nobody argued for repression.
Nobody claimed that threesomes are inherently immoral.

The criticism concerned dehumanization, hypocrisy, responsibility and a moderator’s conduct. Rather than answer it, you bragged, joked, diagnosed your critics and continued performing the behavior being criticized.

No further interpretation is necessary. Your own responses completed the argument against you.

Two sexually insecure men disguising objectification, status-seeking, and avoidance of accountability as sexual liberation and spiritual maturity.

 

 

Ok first off @LordFall had nothing to do with what i said.  And I apologized for it.  What more do you want?

[LordFall]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Man I just love that enthusiasm and everything that comes with it.  I'm going to try to hit your events.  You're the man!

 

You're welcome to pop by one of these days! This thread is a masterpiece in showcasing why social circle game is so powerful.

When you host real life events you don't have to entertain or engage with low value people. You cater a crowd with the people that you desire to engage with and you build an awesome life and let keyboard warriors bicker on the internet. 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[yetineti]

@Inliytened1

“I apologized. What more do you want?” is not accountability; it is resentment that the apology did not immediately purchase immunity. What was wanted was conduct consistent with your apology. Instead, you continued bragging, dismissing critics, and objectifying women and eventually declaring, “Either I’m trolling or I have the most pussy here. Either way I win.”

LordFall did not say your words, and nobody claimed he did. He is responsible for defending and rationalizing the atmosphere afterward. But you created it, you continued it after apologizing, and you are the moderator. An apology contradicted by everything that follows is not resolution. It is cover.

This is pathetic, man.  And everyone can see that now. 
 

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by yetineti

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, yetineti said:

@Inliytened1

“I apologized. What more do you want?” is not accountability; it is resentment that the apology did not immediately purchase immunity. What was wanted was conduct consistent with your apology. Instead, you continued bragging, dismissing critics, and objectifying women and eventually declaring, “Either I’m trolling or I have the most pussy here. Either way I win.”

LordFall did not say your words, and nobody claimed he did. He is responsible for defending and rationalizing the atmosphere afterward. But you created it, you continued it after apologizing, and you are the moderator. An apology contradicted by everything that follows is not resolution. It is cover.

This is pathetic, man.  And everyone can see that now. 
 

 

 

 

Sounds like you are just crying cuz you didn't get that piece of ass you wanted

Edited 1 hour ago by Inliytened1

[yetineti]

@Inliytened1

10 minutes ago, yetineti said:

I'm gonna toss everyone in this thread a bone cause I know what you're thinking. 

FYI, I'm 25 m. Tinder was created in my lifetime. IUDs were perfected. I play five instruments, and I lost my virginity at fourteen. Do the math. 

Do stuff, don't talk about it. 

And pick better mods, @Leo Gura. Jesus Christ. 

Less talking, more doing.

Edited 1 hour ago by yetineti

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, yetineti said:

I guess I do feel the slight egotistic need to stick it to you a little bit. The hottest place I've ever had sex was in a hotel bed, discreetly, in front of friends who didn't even know it was happening. Then we went to the bathroom. It was great. She picked me. Didn't even have to objectify her, believe that???

Nothing wrong with that.  You got it..

[Ulax]

6 minutes ago, yetineti said:

@Inliytened1

Less talking, more doing. Bye bye

I like the edit. Exquisite sassiness 👏

[Asayake]

4 hours ago, LordFall said:

I think it's very predictable that a thread on sex would trigger a lot of shadow from the members of a mostly stage green forum. Both because stage green is more sensitive to derogatory language and wants to include everyone but also because it tends to want to run away from the more direct evaluation and burden of competence that stage orange brings. 

Let's not make it a man vs woman thing, women talk about sex just as crudely as men if not more. You can see it for yourself on the sex subreddit or on the female dating strategies subreddit or on the twoxchromosone subreddit.

Talking about which kind of partners you prefer is a sensitive subject but that's also the difference between talking in generalities vs addressing someone's life specifically. Saying you don't like one kind of partner as a stated presence for your own sex life is different than an overweight user asking for dating help and someone saying sorry you are fat, fat people aren't attractive so we can't help you. That would be a demonstrably false statement since plenty of people date overweight partners and BBW porn is a very thriving community. On the reverse, telling someone that they should workout and get in shape to ameliorate their dating life is a completely different line of discussion. Let's be cognizant of what's being said here and not be triggered snowflakes for the sake of it. 

@Inliytened1 has already apologized for his phrasing when commenting about some humans he's not particularly into but his intent in making this thread is clearly just to discuss sexuality openly to contrast with the members of this forum who seem to be terrified of it; which is why I replied openly and honesty to it. 

its easy for you to explain away people calling out your bad behavior by putting them below you with the spiral dynamics label. Maybe once you should start facing your own shadow instead of thinking you can psychoanalyze people on here that oppose you. There's no burden of competence here, it's a dick measuring contest, that's juvenile boy stuff which is the opposite of competence. Also you frame people who judge & go against this thread as terrified but you seem terrified of people judging your views on sexuality. Explain to me what the actual value of this thread is apart from validating your views on sex?

 

 

[Joseph Maynor]

You guys are trying to fake attractiveness.  

[LordFall]

10 minutes ago, Asayake said:

its easy for you to explain away people calling out your bad behavior by putting them below you with the spiral dynamics label. Maybe once you should start facing your own shadow instead of thinking you can psychoanalyze people on here that oppose you. There's no burden of competence here, it's a dick measuring contest, that's juvenile boy stuff which is the opposite of competence. Also you frame people who judge & go against this thread as terrified but you seem terrified of people judging your views on sexuality. Explain to me what the actual value of this thread is apart from validating your views on sex?

 

 

Where have I engaged in bad behaviour? If you perceive me talking about my sex life as toxic behaviour then that just serves to expose your shadow and is a pretty cringe example of limiting beliefs and crab in the bucket trying to shame other men that are living the life you want.

A thread that gives a safe space for people to share their sexual experiences on a dating forum seems pretty standard to me. You see that all the time on Reddit or other internet discussion boards. It should also help to normalize sex for people that have grown up in an environment that shames sex and that puts barriers on sexual expression like religious communities for example. 

Here is a thread on the front page of Reddit right now by a woman asking for tips on how to keep up with her boyfriend sexually

https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/1vs635n/my_boyfriend_has_a_lot_of_stamina_and_although/

The easy stage green moralizing tactic by men uncomfortable with sex is be a social justice warrior standing up for women but women are just as interested in sex if not more then men so it's usually a very shallow point. 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[yetineti]

I deleted my sexual story because it was unnecessary and contradicted my point. I let myself get pulled into proving my sexual credentials because I worried younger men might dismiss me as some kind of bootlicker. That was ego, and I stooped to the level I was criticizing. My point had already been made, and I apologize for weakening it.

@LordFall

Discussing your sex life is not the bad behavior. The problem is that you repeatedly:

Recast criticism as “shadow,” shame, fear, Stage Green sensitivity and a “victim mindset.”

Defended degrading remarks as mere “phrasing” while calling objectors triggered snowflakes.

Replaced criticism of objectification with the straw man that people fear sexuality.

Framed attractive women and threesomes as rewards for male “game” and development.

Minimized a woman’s suffering as acceptable “alignment” and validated blaming her maturity.

Demanded civility while calling critics low-value people and keyboard warriors.

Your latest response demonstrates the problem: you asked what you did wrong and immediately declared that anyone perceiving wrongdoing exposes their shadow and victim mentality.

Nobody objects to you discussing sex. The objection is that you use psychological and spiritual language to place yourself above criticism while refusing to address it.

Now you have your answer.

Edited 1 hour ago by yetineti

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, yetineti said:

I've actually deleted my sexual story, and while it was hot and it was magnificent, I stooped to their level, and I am sorry, people. I felt as though the younger men here may not credit me or may view me as some sort of boot licker. I realized I don't have to share that story. My point was already made here. 

@LordFall

Discussing your sex life is not the bad behavior. The problem is that you repeatedly:

Recast criticism as “shadow,” shame, fear, Stage Green sensitivity and a “victim mindset.”

Defended degrading remarks as mere “phrasing” while calling objectors triggered snowflakes.

Replaced criticism of objectification with the straw man that people fear sexuality.

Framed attractive women and threesomes as rewards for male “game” and development.

Minimized a woman’s suffering as acceptable “alignment” and validated blaming her maturity.

Demanded civility while calling critics low-value people and keyboard warriors.

Your latest response demonstrates the problem: you asked what you did wrong and immediately declared that anyone perceiving wrongdoing exposes their shadow and victim mentality.

Nobody objects to you discussing sex. The objection is that you use psychological and spiritual language to place yourself above criticism while refusing to address it.

Now you have your answer.

Well you can't delete your sexual story. Cuz we know it. We know it now.  We know how you lost your virginity.

The point of the whole thing is that's OK.  Let's be men.

You don't want to do that.

Edited 1 hour ago by Inliytened1

[yetineti]

@Inliytened1

What don't I want to do? I genuinely don't know what you're referring to here. 

I'm not embarrassed that I fucked a girl in a bathroom, dude. I'm embarrassed how I used it in an argument. 

It's also personally creepy towards me the way you just referenced that and my virginity. Thank you very much. 

Me backtracking there is exactly what you should do now.

Edited 1 hour ago by yetineti

[Inliytened1]

Just now, yetineti said:

@Inliytened1

What don't I want to do? I genuinely don't know what you're referring to here. 

I'm not embarrassed that I fucked a girl in a bathroom, dude. I'm embarrassed how I used it in an argument. 

Me backtracking there is exactly what you should do now.

Hopefully you moved her to the bed.

[Ulax]

7 minutes ago, yetineti said:

I deleted my sexual story because it was unnecessary and contradicted my point. I let myself get pulled into proving my sexual credentials because I worried younger men might dismiss me as some kind of bootlicker. That was ego, and I stooped to the level I was criticizing. My point had already been made, and I apologize for weakening it.

@LordFall

Discussing your sex life is not the bad behavior. The problem is that you repeatedly:

Recast criticism as “shadow,” shame, fear, Stage Green sensitivity and a “victim mindset.”

Defended degrading remarks as mere “phrasing” while calling objectors triggered snowflakes.

Replaced criticism of objectification with the straw man that people fear sexuality.

Framed attractive women and threesomes as rewards for male “game” and development.

Minimized a woman’s suffering as acceptable “alignment” and validated blaming her maturity.

Demanded civility while calling critics low-value people and keyboard warriors.

Your latest response demonstrates the problem: you asked what you did wrong and immediately declared that anyone perceiving wrongdoing exposes their shadow and victim mentality.

Nobody objects to you discussing sex. The objection is that you use psychological and spiritual language to place yourself above criticism while refusing to address it.

Now you have your answer.

(Generally) never explain yourself

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, Ulax said:

(Generally) never explain yourself

He imploded on himself, and we let him do it.

[Asayake]

12 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Well you can't delete your sexual story. Cuz we know it. We know it now.  We know how you lost your virginity.

The point of the whole thing is that's OK.  Let's be men.

You don't want to do that.

That's creepy dude, what is the purpose of this post? @LordFall you claimed this thread is about sexual openness and sharing sexual experiences in a safe space, do you think what Inliytened1 said here sounds like a safe space? It sounds to me more so like leveraging revealed personal information as a peer pressure tactic.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

He imploded on himself, and we let him do it.

No. 

You just refuse to listen.

[Ulax]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

He imploded on himself, and we let him do it.