FUCK COMPLIMENTS, This is what ADVANCED Flirting Looks Like! [Not for Beginners]!

[Zenterus]

@PsychedelicEagle

2 minutes ago, PsychedelicEagle said:

I see where you're coming from, and I agree with it completely. However, let me point something out. The idea of "high value" as described here mostly applies to social circles, social events, clubs, parties, etc.

Personally, I don't frequent these types of events that often anymore. The way I go about my game is by going about my life: doing sports, grocery shop, train station. If I see a hot chick who's my type I go talk to her. I then tell her what in her genuinely made me attracted and I start asking her questions, both to see if she's the type of person I'm looking for, and to learn more of her cause I'm curious.

Notice that under these circumstances being indirect is a lot harder than in nightgame. How would you approach the situaion, @Zenterus, say, a hot sports girl in the grocery shop?

Being direct here has so many benefits from my POV, among which: screen if she's taken; prevents her from wasting my time; use it as the opener; facilitates congruency in my body language; sets the frame in her mind; allows me to gauge her attraction level/openness straight away; shows that I'm confident in expressing my true intentions (this is actually a big win — requires high confidence to convey what you really feel as you know); allows me to open without screening for things to open indirectly, etc.

Also, notice that the notion of directness not being perceived as "high value" applies mostly to conventional people attending mainstream venues. People who are nonconformant, have independent thinking, and open-mindedness, are much less likely to associate unconventional behavior to "low value". So from this perspective I also get to screen a bit of her personality and values.

I'm the type of person who values systems and protocols that simplify my life.

Just wanted to point it all out so that people who want to approach game from the same angle can be confident that directness is a completely valid approach, and, IMHO, is not leaving much on the table — depending on the venue and situation where you approach.

Brother, I might give you a more in depth explanation later because right now I have somewhere to be.

What I will say, is that the advice I just gave, I mostly apply to daygame. I approach, most of the time, indirectly during the day. It works just the same.

Plus, the beauty of this approach is that it is versatile. You might meet a super cool girl who has a boyfriend but who you'd love to be friends with -- and who could introduce you to other amazing people -- but you've burned that bridge the moment you went direct. If you try to switch, she'll think that you're just trying to weasel your way into her pants. Indirect allows you to figure out what you're dealing with before deciding on a course of action.

I'll make future posts about how to navigate this approach beyond the opener, but don't forget that you're still flirting, it's just not off the open. So you'll find out if she has a boyfriend anyway, because the girl can sense the vibe you're putting out, but isn't fully certain if her assumption is correct which allows you the versatility to switch paths if you want, or even targets if you're talking to multiple attractive women.

There are so many advanced benefits to this, honestly.

[PsychedelicEagle]

25 minutes ago, Zenterus said:

I might give you a more in depth explanation later because right now I have somewhere to be.
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I'll make future posts about how to navigate this approach beyond the opener

Please do. I appreciate getting a different perspective on how I could be approaching.

But being honest not sure I will agree since I feel we're approaching the problem from different values and perspectives.

I still don't see many benefits from being indirect, for the situations I approach girls. 

 

For example, often on the street or the train station the girl is walking to go somewhere. If I don't explicitly say I found her attractive it's so awkward. Why would you stop someone to comment on their dress or something else? Or ask about information for some place? It just makes setting the frame harder. As said, I value simplicity and straightforwardness.

 

Regarding:

25 minutes ago, Zenterus said:

You might meet a super cool girl who has a boyfriend but who you'd love to be friends with

If the girl has a bf, the last thing I want is her number. As a matter of fact, sometimes when I approach, they only say they have a boyfriend at the end of the interaction, when I've already pulled up my phone to get hers. And they offer to exchange numbers regardless — I always reject. I don't want no trouble with committed girls, even if I don't have bad intentions myself.

25 minutes ago, Zenterus said:

switch paths if you want, or even targets if you're talking to multiple attractive women.

This is a clear benefit indeed.

Edited 2 hours ago by PsychedelicEagle

[Emotionalmosquito]

I’m sorry but how in god’s blue marble am I supposed to just spit witty, well calibrated lines like that within seconds? My stunted ass brain works so slow it takes me upwards of half an hour just to type out a semi intelligent sounding post in comment sections or forums. In real life you’re working with mere seconds at a time and you don’t get to retract your words once they’re said. 
 

My improvised lines would come out sounding more like “Uh oh. Don’t you be a dangerous girl on me!” 🫵🏻 

Or, “Oh you like super heroes? Well you better not come at me like Gamora did to Quill when she didn’t recognize him.”

Or something like, “So you like food? We’re gonna have to change that before we start dating or else I’ll get jealous seeing you eat so easily.”

Also wtf do I do if she just stands there with the fluoride stare and gives one word answers I can’t do anything with?

Edited 2 hours ago by Emotionalmosquito

[VioleGrace]

1 hour ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

I’m sorry but how in god’s blue marble am I supposed to just spit witty, well calibrated lines like that within seconds? My stunted ass brain works so slow it takes me upwards of half an hour just to type out a semi intelligent sounding post in comment sections or forums. In real life you’re working with mere seconds at a time and you don’t get to retract your words once they’re said. 
 

My improvised lines would come out sounding more like “Uh oh. Don’t you be a dangerous girl on me!” 🫵🏻 

Or, “Oh you like super heroes? Well you better not come at me like Gamora did to Quill when she didn’t recognize him.”

Or something like, “So you like food? We’re gonna have to change that before we start dating or else I’ll get jealous seeing you eat so easily.”

Also wtf do I do if she just stands there with the fluoride stare and gives one word answers I can’t do anything with?

Just begin with direct approach until you are comfortable enough to be indirect, 

Dont forget this is ADVANCED advise, 

To do this correctly ... To be precise TO LEARN to do this correctly you have to be able to approach women and to have a decent conversation with girls before hands, 

So begin by direct approach it is less efficient BUT IS WORKS 

When you will be confortable switch to indirect approach 

Plus you can do direct approach and work on your vibe wittyness and frame 

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

I’m sorry but how in god’s blue marble am I supposed to just spit witty, well calibrated lines like that within seconds? My stunted ass brain works so slow it takes me upwards of half an hour just to type out a semi intelligent sounding post in comment sections or forums. In real life you’re working with mere seconds at a time and you don’t get to retract your words once they’re said. 
 

My improvised lines would come out sounding more like “Uh oh. Don’t you be a dangerous girl on me!” 🫵🏻 

Or, “Oh you like super heroes? Well you better not come at me like Gamora did to Quill when she didn’t recognize him.”

Or something like, “So you like food? We’re gonna have to change that before we start dating or else I’ll get jealous seeing you eat so easily.”

Also wtf do I do if she just stands there with the fluoride stare and gives one word answers I can’t do anything with?

That was funny tho😂😂

Edited 21 minutes ago by Sugarcoat

[Zenterus]

@VioleGrace I appreciate your support btw, brother! I'm glad you're finding value in what I share in this forum