Sri Niagaradasti Enlightenment Story

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes, that why I said you are the knowing that cannot be known. You are infinity in-finite, captured one freeze frame at a time infinitely unfolding eternally. 

I fucking love this. 

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

What actually is is unknowable.

I must admit, I found it a bit strange when you said that your experience of life hasn't changed one iota.

Surely, with the sense of a separate self not being in the way anymore, so to speak, things will flow a bit smoother ?

ie no resistance as such.

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[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes, that why I said you are the knowing that cannot be known. You are infinity in-finite, captured one freeze frame at a time infinitely unfolding eternally. 

 

The Absolute does not unfold; it is already infinitely unfolded without beginning or end. It is immutable and can be fully known, since all that is, is that. If all barriers disappear, the Totality sees itself from the human form.

It sees itself when the human mind transcends the level of structure and opens to the Absolute level. Then the human mind is the Absolute. As the human mind is conscious of itself, when this occurs, the Absolute is conscious of itself.

[Mellowmarsh]

3 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I must admit, I found it a bit strange when you said that your experience of life hasn't changed one iota.

Surely, with the sense of a separate self not being in the way anymore, so to speak, things will flow a bit smoother ?

ie no resistance as such.

I’m not resisting anything.  I’m just allowing anything to be as it is. My observation follows the motto, ( this too will pass)

 

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I’m not resisting anything.  I’m just allowing anything to be as it is. My observation follows the motto, ( this too will pass)

 

Nice, thank you.

[Mellowmarsh]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

 

The Absolute does not unfold; it is already infinitely unfolded without beginning or end. It is immutable and can be fully known, since all that is, is that. If all barriers disappear, the Totality sees itself from the human form.

It sees itself when the human mind transcends the level of structure and opens to the Absolute level. Then the human mind is the Absolute. As the human mind is conscious of itself, when this occurs, the Absolute is conscious of itself.

I have no problem with how you interpret the infinite absolute. That’s all on you according to your personal unique definition. 

However, how you interpret it there,  is not how I here am personally interpreting it. 
 

 

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I have no problem with how you interpret the infinite absolute. That’s all on you according to your personal unique definition. 

However, how you interpret it there,  is not how I here am personally interpreting it. 
 

 

Its just an open unfolding Infinity to him and he isn't wrong.  But he hasn't yet seen any type of focus.  God can focus on something.  He lacks that.  Because he wants to eliminate any possibility of any will.

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[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Its just an open unfolding Infinity to him and he isn't wrong.  But he cancels out any type of focus.  God csn focus on something.  He lacks that 

To be honest, most of what I’m reading from him just sounds like blah blah blah, but to him it’s obviously his way of putting this into words, so good for him. I don’t actually care. He’s the only one inside his mind, not others. 

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

To be honest, most of what I’m reading from him just sounds like blah blah blah, but to him it’s obviously his way of putting this into words, so good for him. I don’t actually care. He’s the only one inside his mind, not others. 

Ok, as you are so derogatory, I'll skip talking to you. anyway It's obvious that your state is closed off, not alive, contracted, and that you don't want to come out of it. Your choice. 

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Ok, as you are so derogatory, I'll skip talking to you. anyway It's obvious that your state is closed off, not alive, contracted, and that you don't want to come out of it. Your choice. 

It's more like you are. 

[Breakingthewall]

15 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Its just an open unfolding Infinity to him and he isn't wrong.  But he hasn't yet seen any type of focus.  God can focus on something.  He lacks that.  Because he wants to eliminate any possibility of any will.

Any will would be relative. I don't understand how you don't see it. I can open myself to the total, that's a fact. Then I know what closes, because open oneself to the absolute is very difficult, our psyche closes with many layers of barriers. Some are very subtle, like the concept "consciousness"

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

It's more like you are. 

In what sense?

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[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Any will would be relative. I don't understand how you don't see it. I can open myself to the total, that's a fact. Then I know what closes, because open oneself to the absolute is very difficult, our psyche closes with many layers of barriers. Some are very subtle, like the concept "consciousness"

I do see it.  You do not truly appreciate the openness.  This must allow for Will.  

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

I do see it.  You do not truly appreciate the openness.  This must allow for Will.  

Absolute means that is not relative to anything. Any will is relative to anything. Aims to something, exclude something. Then the absolute is not a will, is not doing things, it's just absolute. It's extremely obvious.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Absolute means that is not relative to anything. Any will is relative to anything. Aims to something, exclude something. Then the absolute is not a will, is not doing things, it's just absolute. It's extremely obvious.

So it's just there. Existence? You cut it to the quick.   Afterall, you are here trying to explain it.  So there must be a method to the madness.  Pure madness is just that.

[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

So it's just there. Existence? You cut it to the quick.   Afterall, you are here trying to explain it.  So there must be a method to the madness.  Pure madness is just that.

It's very simple: the absolute is the fact of being; it cannot be described in any other way. Even "fact" is superfluous. It is not empty; it is total. Total means that it cannot change; it is the ultimate quality of reality. This manifests as unlimited possibilities, and this is now a possibility taking place. But in any possibility the absolute is exactly the same. It's the substance, the possibility is the form, to say it with some structure 

This is all; there is nothing more to know about the absolute. But the act of opening yourself to the absolute is the great change; it is the end of lack, ignorance, and fear. Nothing is lacking; it is everything.

What is a complex enigma, however, is the mechanism by which the human psyche closes itself off. That is what we should investigate, but it's impossible because no one understands what enlightenment is, it's incredible, it's obvious. Everyone should see it obvious and clear, because it's very simple. 

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[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's very simple: the absolute is the fact of being; it cannot be described in any other way. Even "fact" is superfluous. It is not empty; it is total. Total means that it cannot change; it is the ultimate quality of reality. This manifests as unlimited possibilities, and this is now a possibility taking place.

 

Yes precisely! But isn't this Will in a weird sorta way.  "It cannot be described in any other way" means to me it is willed a certain way.   Now yiu can claim it is a way without will, but still - you are choosing one way over another.  I want you to at least acknowledge that.  I see your brilliance and I see how awake you are.  But I want you to see that.

[gettoefl]

15 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yes precisely! But isn't this Will in a weird sorta way.  "It cannot be described in any other way" means to me it is willed a certain way.   Now yiu can claim it is a way without will, but still - you are choosing one way over another.  I want you to at least acknowledge that.  I see your brilliance and I see how awake you are.  But I want you to see that.

The absolute implies no choice. There is one thing, one way, what is. Only the relative admits choice. To mess with the perfection since it knows better than best.

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

The absolute implies no choice. There is one thing, one way, what is.

That is will. 

You won't escape Infinity.  You wont evade God.  Ultimately you will come to know that he wills everything in your existence  But the catch is he is yourself.  He isn't a deity in the sky  he is before you now.  For judgement.  Do with him what you wish 

[Joseph Maynor]

On 7/19/2026 at 8:19 AM, cetus said:

Almost locked this thread but thought, nah, better to keep them at one location so they don't distract the rest of the forum.

I hear ya.