Sri Niagaradasti Enlightenment Story

[Wilhelm44]

@Mellowmarsh  I saw your 'name' in the Solipsism thread - Mogofeternalstench 

I think I'm going to stick with Mellowmarsh, easier to pronounce 

[Mellowmarsh]

5 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Yeah I wonder if there's something strange going on with the brain during cessations

The”strange“ is the mystery that the sense of being can only sit with. It doesn’t even require an explanation or answer because there isn’t an answer to find in what is ultimately this vast open space of pure beingness.

[gettoefl]

11 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

But can you really say you consciously decided to have the thought ?

I say there is just two actionable thoughts: acceptance and resistance. And you choose according to your state.

Edited 4 hours ago by gettoefl

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Wilhelm44 said:

@Mellowmarsh  I saw your 'name' in the Solipsism thread - Mogofeternalstench 

I think I'm going to stick with Mellowmarsh, easier to pronounce 

Lol…

 

Bog of the eternal stench is a bit of a mouthful. 

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

The”strange“ is the mystery that the sense of being can only sit with. It doesn’t even require an explanation or answer because there isn’t an answer to find in what is ultimately this vast open space of pure beingness.

You have a wonderful way of erasing questions from the mind, thanks

[Wilhelm44]

5 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

I say there is just two actionable thoughts: acceptance and resistance. And you choose according to your state.

Aren't those two, acceptance and resistance, more like energetic contraction or expansion/relaxation in the body, rather than thoughts per say

[Mellowmarsh]

28 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's absolutely impossible, because "stop" is not happening, and happening is a possibility, then the break 'no happening " doesn't happen, always is happening , because "not happening " is never. 

That which appears to happen, never happens. 
 

Because happening is never “not happening” 

[Mellowmarsh]

12 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

You have a wonderful way of erasing questions from the mind, thanks

I love the ease of which you are able to understand what’s being spoken through this particular mouthpiece here. 😀

[Breakingthewall]

 

 

45 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

But can you really say you consciously decided to have the thought ?

That's just an opinion, I don't believe that i have the absolute truth about how reality works. 

What you are is a process shaped by evolution, involving the creation of a predictive model that integrates variables to find the most optimal solution. This process is constantly deciding which alternative to take; it is the evolutionary nature of life, which functions by seeking the optimal solution for self-preservation.

So yes, you, the reality in the form of a self-preserved, stable process interconnected with its environment and governed by psychological structures created through evolution, is constantly choosing among variables.

The conscious mind is only the tip of the iceberg; what we call the self and identify with "me" is also constantly choosing among possible variables, seeking the optimal one based on the available information. The margin of decision is narrow but in every choice it's uncertainty. Reality is always choosing among possibilities. Imo nothing can be determined because it would be a closure. 

 

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[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

What means imaginary? That I'm imagining it now?

Where is it?  What is the force? It is very dependent on the laws of physics which you have carefully crafted.  So when you ingest caffeine, for example, you feel energized.  Invisible forces exist all around you but notice that force is something no different from a thought.   If you were to stop imagining force it wouldn't be there anymore.

[Wilhelm44]

32 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The conscious mind is only the tip of the iceberg;

If there are a whole bunch of processes happening in the background over which you have no conscious control, and neither can you say that you are consciously deciding for the mind, can you see that perhaps the sense of the 'controller' might be an illusion, made up of a confluence of the senses, thoughts, emotions etc

[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

If there are a whole bunch of processes happening in the background over which you have no conscious control, and neither can you say that you are consciously deciding for the mind, can you see that perhaps the sense of the 'controller' might be an illusion, made up of a confluence of the senses, thoughts, emotions etc

There is some decision and control. The self is a process made for prediction and decision. It's conditioned by layers and layers of written code, but ultimately there is not absolute certainly of which election it will do between two possiblities

Edited 3 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

19 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

If you were to stop imagining force it wouldn't be there anymore.

Then imagine that you can fly, let's see if you can. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

That which appears to happen, never happens. 
 

Because happening is never “not happening” 

What is the difference between appear to happen and happen?

[Wilhelm44]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

There is some decision and control. The self is a process made for prediction and decision. It's conditioned by layers and layers of written code, but ultimately there is not absolute certainly of which election "it" will do between two possiblities

Could "it" just be Life itself.

[Mellowmarsh]

7 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

What is the difference between appear to happen and happen?

Knowledge. 
 

Which can only point to the illusory nature of reality.

 

Ultimately, reality / existence is not-knowing . Or, non-dual. 

[Inliytened1]

25 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then imagine that you can fly, let's see if you can. 

Remember the laws.  

[gettoefl]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Aren't those two, acceptance and resistance, more like energetic contraction or expansion/relaxation in the body, rather than thoughts per say

Yes. Indeed everything is thought. The thinks begets the things. Most thoughts are seemingly nothing to do with me - save one. Accepting or resisting. If I accept I expand into what is. If I resist I seemingly contract and apparently suffer. Accepting is aligning with the absolute. It proclaims, God's Will be done.

[Breakingthewall]

59 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Could "it" just be Life itself.

Sure, but that's what we are. The self is life in the form of a self. What we are is the reality happening, there is not "you" and "reality", are the same thing, that's obvious right? The point is being the reality in the form of a self being able to "know" what you as the reality ultimately are.

You know that you are right? Then you can know what you are. The way is being it leaving the form behind for a while, placing yourself in a mental level where there are not differences. Not denying the reality of that differences just placing yourself in another mental level where there are not barriers. Then the nature of what reality is is revealed. 

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[Breakingthewall]

37 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Remember the laws.  

You are not imagining those laws, they are real, are the equation that rules this universe, they doesn't depends of your imagination