Sri Niagaradasti Enlightenment Story

[Mellowmarsh]

21 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Once again I think there's some misunderstanding here.

It's not a case of denying reality.

Talking to Breakingthewall about these things is like an oil and water situation. The conversation quickly becomes fuzzy, even opaque, where neither one or the other in conversation can see through what the other person is saying. It’s like trying to imagine what it’s like to be inside someone else’s head, it’s impossible. So the conversation rarely reaches a mutual understanding. Sometimes it does, but mostly it doesn’t.

He somehow has managed to convince himself that nondual teaching is about the denial of ego and reality. This is totally a misunderstanding and is definitely not what is being taught. It’s just so disingenuous to keep using the denial card against people who resonate with the nondual message. It’s difficult to get through to people who are so well dug into their own carved out groove in regards to their own version of reality. It’s pointless to keep fleshing it out repeatedly, it’s exhausting.

I have no personal problem with other people’s ideas, if that’s how they are personally perceiving. There’s nothing I can say to change another person’s idea, and it’s never on my agenda to alter another person’s word view. For me, it’s very black and white, we either resonate with someone else’s ideas or we don’t. We can only report from the lens of our own personal perspective according to how we are perceiving our experiences anyway. 
 

Sometimes I even think forums like this often incite people into becoming hostile or in opposition towards others in their attempt to defend their well grooved positions. That’s why to me, it’s pointless and a waste of time persuading others around to your own point of view, especially when it’s clear they are not seeing another’s position from their own position. It’s just better to leave the conversation if it’s going nowhere, if it’s not meeting in the middle.
 

 

[Wilhelm44]

@Mellowmarsh  Thank you.

[Mellowmarsh]

8 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

So if I may ask, was it a huge energetic experience in the body, thunder and lightning etc ?  Terrifying, or were you already significantly prepared for it to be experienced, or not experienced, more just as Glorious etc ?

Yes, it was a huge energetic experience, it felt like taking in the whole ocean in just one gulp.

It wasn’t terrifying, it was very exhilarating. I wasn’t surprised it happened as I’d been preparing for something to blow my brains to kingdom come. So when it happened I was quite relieved, actually. 🙂

 

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes, it was a huge energetic experience, it felt like taking in the whole ocean in just one gulp.

It wasn’t terrifying, it was very exhilarating. I wasn’t surprised it happened as I’d been preparing for something to blow my brains to kingdom come. So when it happened I was quite relieved, actually. 🙂

 

Thank you for sharing 

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Thank you for sharing 

You’re very welcome, anytime bro. 👊 Stay cool. 😎 

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

You’re very welcome, anytime bro. 👊 Stay cool. 😎 

[Mellowmarsh]

7 hours ago, ZeroZeroes said:

It’s an illusory effect of the mind, not the force field. Saying it’s a force field causing it instead of the rock assumes the rock is illusory but the force field is real. Yet believing it was the “non-physical electromagnetic invisible force field” is multiple more hallucinations away than rock since it’s even more concepts and beliefs added on.
Also force fields are a part of the physical paradigm, it is invisible, not non-physical. So rather than:

It would say: “what feels physical is actually the effect of a physical electromagnetic invisible force field.”
Reductionism won't show the illusory nature of things. Because it reinforces the non-illusory nature of whatever is claimed to be the actual cause of the phenomena.

Okay, cool, thanks for the clarification. Sincerely appreciate your input here. 

[Mellowmarsh]

8 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I think that perhaps what Cetus was pointing to, is that maybe you dont relate to the experience (God realization etc) being described by the words, because you haven't done psychedelics ?

I just say God is the everything without an identity. The everything that’s infinitely unfolding from within and out of itself, it’s only self, as in the spider and the web analogy. That’s how I personally interpret God.
 

I have no idea what God is being seen for someone who has used psychedelics to reach God realisation, because that’s never been my personal experience. 

Personally, I believe we’re each our own universe, and never the Twain shall meet. When two universes collide, in my opinion they become one universe together. Or something like that, it’s just how I’m able to describe the way I see it.

 

Its going to be different for each individual universe, obviously. When I say individual, I mean different strands of the same infinite web. 
 

 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Once again I think there's some misunderstanding here.

It's not a case of denying reality.

I'd say it's more about pointing out that the materialist paradigm of physicality that we were brought up with, is an illusion.

How could be an illusion? Physics describes the equation that this universe is. The logical relationship that makes reality existing as we see. Where is the illusion?

[Wilhelm44]

3 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I just say God is the everything without an identity. The everything that’s infinitely unfolding from within and out of itself, it’s only self, as in the spider and the web analogy. That’s how I personally interpret God.
 

I have no idea what God is being seen for someone who has used psychedelics to reach God realisation, because that’s never been my personal experience. 

Personally, I believe we’re each our own universe, and never the Twain shall meet. When two universes collide, in my opinion they become one universe together. Or something like that, it’s just how I’m able to describe the way I see it.

 

Its going to be different for each individual universe, obviously. When I say individual, I mean different strands of the same infinite web. 
 

 

Beautiful.

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

How could be an illusion? Physics describes the equation that this universe is. The logical relationship that makes reality existing as we see. Where is the illusion?

You know, appears solid, but is actually pretty much empty, isn't that what quantum physics tells us ?