Not All AI Is Slop

[AerisVahnEphelia]

5 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@AerisVahnEphelia so pointing out hypocrasy is a fallacious line of reasoning. Some more hoops and mental gymnastics 😁

Nice way to slink out of responsibility!

Don't worry I m a Stirnerian according to gpt.

I forgive your founding fathers.

Now let me enjoy the piracy of flowers and water. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@AerisVahnEphelia if you own the ethics of it and are okay with it - more power to you. But still. 

Stolen. 😈

[AerisVahnEphelia]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@AerisVahnEphelia if you own the ethics of it and are okay with it - more power to you. But still. 

Stolen. 😈

[Elliott]

Capitalising of art has to be the most pathetic

 

Everyone owns everything equally, otherwise, everything we have is stolen from someone 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

2 hours ago, Elliott said:

Capitalising of art has to be the most pathetic

 

Everyone owns everything equally, otherwise, everything we have is stolen from someone 

 

 

the whole anti IP thing is anti real art at the end of the day, art is about sharing.

 

Edited yesterday at 03:32 AM by AerisVahnEphelia

[Andrey]

16 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

 

 

Really nice, thank you for sharing.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

7 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

 

 

the whole anti IP thing is anti real art at the end of the day, art is about sharing.

 

That's just an opinion. And while you can have it, it doesn't mean it is immune to criticism. Stolen data remains stolen data.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

That's just an opinion. And while you can have it, it doesn't mean it is immune to criticism. Stolen data remains stolen data.

That's more nuanced. I always feel like it's a final output which need to be judged on that in the case of ai. 

Explicitly deceiving people is always bad. 

And honestly there is some people having result that already exist, without them self aware. 

In an ideal world if you removed the economical side ( space abundance star trek ) no one would mind about what the current ai does, quite the contrary.

Hating ai theft is a low fruit of the tree problem, hate the system who enable this dynamic more.

 

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@Andrey Thanks to you for taking time to watch !

Edited yesterday at 01:52 PM by AerisVahnEphelia

[Elliott]

Even in the u.s. patents can only last for 20 years

[Lyubov]

23 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

it's hard to measure such things, especially in art, it can be the result of long complex practice & contemplation.
+ 12 years in art & visual contemplation.
daily practice of using different ai for more than 12 months.

in itself for this project, maybe 30 hours of "effort" counting research, visual creation, editing, montage, that's not my longest work.

I like your video but to me it's sorta hollow and doesn't come close to things made by people. 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

1 minute ago, Lyubov said:

I like your video but to me it's sorta hollow and doesn't come close to things made by people. 

I m self aware, but I like the idea of making things entirely generated for now.
It's like playing around until the tech allow to do better things with it.

I barely use dialog in my videos for the reason that it feels way "too hollow".
 
 

[LordFall]

AI slop is a bit of a useless term

One of the core definitions of slop on Merriam-Webster is : a product of little or no value

Most things in existence are of little or low value. We use economics and business to measure what things are worth paying for in terms of our time, energy and money. Most of what AI produces you would not pay for but neither would you buy what most random people on the street offer so why do we not call most of what humans do slop? We don't because it's redundant. 

On 7/14/2026 at 11:03 AM, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Using stolen data. Stolen creation.

Very arguable, most of it is in the public domain and none of it was stolen it's still there. A lot of artists that get mad that AI can now do what they do are just too lazy to learn project management and entrepreneur skills. In their time they had a monopoly on drawing lines on a paper and filling it with a color in a way that was appealing and now AI can do it. Farmers had a monopoly on knowing how to toil soil before tractors and industrial agriculture turned them into heavy machinery operators and logistics managers. Now they're better off for it and so we will all be from the AI revolution. Hopefully 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

31 minutes ago, LordFall said:

AI slop is a bit of a useless term

One of the core definitions of slop on Merriam-Webster is : a product of little or no value

Most things in existence are of little or low value. We use economics and business to measure what things are worth paying for in terms of our time, energy and money. Most of what AI produces you would not pay for but neither would you buy what most random people on the street offer so why do we not call most of what humans do slop? We don't because it's redundant. 

Very arguable, most of it is in the public domain and none of it was stolen it's still there. A lot of artists that get mad that AI can now do what they do are just too lazy to learn project management and entrepreneur skills. In their time they had a monopoly on drawing lines on a paper and filling it with a color in a way that was appealing and now AI can do it. Farmers had a monopoly on knowing how to toil soil before tractors and industrial agriculture turned them into heavy machinery operators and logistics managers. Now they're better off for it and so we will all be from the AI revolution. Hopefully 

yeh but your point of view is utilitarist, you do things for money, lot of people do things for the pleasure of doing this very thing rather than something else.

something I totally understand.

most non artistic people don't get meaning from what they are directly doing, so they don't understand the fuss, the fuss is that, the reward of the work was also the work in itself.
 

[Jirh]

32 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

yeh but your point of view is utilitarist, you do things for money, lot of people do things for the pleasure of doing this very thing rather than something else.

something I totally understand.

most non artistic people don't get meaning from what they are directly doing, so they don't understand the fuss, the fuss is that, the reward of the work was also the work in itself.
 

Seriously 

[LordFall]

Right but in that view AI only improved their ability to do art for fun. They can still draw whatever they want and they now just got improved tools to change it if they want to or give feedback. A top AI image generator doesn't stop anyone from sketching a drawing in pencil.

I think the money part is core to AI fear, people are worried about being able to pay their bills with cheaper and cheaper AI workflows coming on especially with morons like the current american administration in charge. Some people I think(like @Leo Gura ) are offended at the very notion that a program can come up with greater intelligence than they can after a lifetime of work but that's just how evolution works.

AI has made me so much smarter already, so many concepts I'm able to debate with it; I'm full on the boat of seeing it as a tool not as a competitor. We are gonna need a UBI or subsidy response for AI layoffs though that's real. 

Edited 2 hours ago by LordFall