Connor Murphy the fitness influencer, has passed away

[cetus]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

I dont think it was the Truth that killed him i think he was never comfortable in his own skin.

My brother was that way. He abused himself with alcohol and finally when things got really bad, he said to my mom, "If anything ever happens to me don't feel bad because I was never happy here". 

[r0ckyreed]

2 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

Usually, close friends and family are much quicker to speak out, even when the burden is heavy.

They did. Watch the video I posted in this thread. His long time best friend confirmed it.

[r0ckyreed]

21 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I dont think it was the Truth that killed him i think he was never comfortable in his own skin.

He “couldn’t handle the Truth.” His mind opened up more than he could tolerate and had psychotic break. He had genuine awakenings but couldn’t integrate them. Awakening doesn’t mean you will be sane or moral.
 

Truth kills us all in the end since Truth is Everything, including the lake he drowned in.

Edited 15 hours ago by r0ckyreed

[Leo Gura]

He was doing spirituality for the wrong reasons. He wasn't doing it for truth, he was doing it out of ego and vanity. Something so serious cannot be turned into a social media vanity project. Mysticism isn't a joke, it is more serious than science. Yet some people treat it like a toy.

In Zen they call this "wild fox Zen".

Connor was the wild fox.

Edited 15 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Hojo]

5 hours ago, OBEler said:

@Leo Gura But its so disturbing because he really faked his emotions. I believe that. It was total overexaggerated and bad acting.  It really seemed to be thats someone who tried to imitate people with real mental conditions.

Hes not faking the emotions hes pretending that hes faking it he was mentally ill. Emotion - thought - action.
He was turning into his thoughts by actioning them everythought he had. This is why you cannot fuck around. He was emoting every thought he had. Those thoughts are imaginary. He turning schizophrenic by treating his thoughts as if they are him. Thats how people go schizophrenic, by emoting his thoughts everytime he has one he gets confused and forgets who he is. The silence is gone as you just created an additional barrier against God.

Saying im faking my emotions is schizophrenia. Bro theres no you to fake emotions and your emotion created your thought.

While going schizophrenic is part of the path emoting every single thought is the opposite of what you want to do you want to let them go rampant but not do anything about them they arent you.

After awakening you are supposed to drop the mask. He put on 15 more and lost the silence and peace of God.

Edited 15 hours ago by Hojo

[cetus]

I'm sure he was influenced by Frank Yang too.

[Lyubov]

5 hours ago, OBEler said:

No I mean he stated the whole time it was just an act. See my last post where he even was evaluated by a psychiatrist that he is mentally ok so his parents and other viewers are not too concerned. He said he always faked his craziness. His whole goal was to give attention to mental conditions like social anxiety and others. It seemed always to me he knows what he is doing. I really thought he is an actor.

That’s because to a degree there is a phenomenon where your mind / inner child / ego (whatever you wish to call it) knows the truthfulness of your thoughts and what you’re doing. You mix it that with the altered manic state and there is some degree of agency in it. Especially if it becomes a pattern where it becomes familiar. It’s in that space between it all where you act and keep yourself safe and stop putting energy into beliefs and things which create the manic states. Through his episodes a part of you can shine through telling you it’s not true and not right to align like this. Conor overestimated the control he had over it. It’s why he said it’s an act because in a sense it was but it wasn’t an act where he was pretending and faking everything, it was an act in the sense that he would choose it and feed it instead of heeding advice that he would eventually put himself in danger if he fed into those states. 

Edited 14 hours ago by Lyubov

[Opulence]

Dude always looked fit. What a shame?

[r0ckyreed]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

He was doing spirituality for the wrong reasons. He wasn't doing it for truth, he was doing it out of ego and vanity. Something so serious cannot be turned into a social media vanity project. Mysticism isn't a joke, it is more serious than science. Yet some people treat it like a toy.

In Zen they call this "wild fox Zen".

Connor was the wild fox.

It seems like part of him was interested in Truth/Philosophy, but he never let go of the social media persona. They say he was quite introverted in his private life. So it’s possible he had awakening or mystical experience (it seems so based off of his communications). He could have pretended. But my intuition is telling me that he did have some genuine interest in God and some insights on the matter. But he was still motivated by influencer social validation.

More science could’ve helped Connor than spirituality. One of the things science does better than mysticism is that science relies on reliability and replicability. Mysticism/spirituality isn’t a reliable or definable path. There are many ways to do spirituality (some are more effective than others), and there are many ways to do science (ex: ethnographies, experimental-design, etc.) but science seems better in the sense it has more consistent and reliable results. Science is more clearly defined.

Connor Murphy did spirituality incorrectly and many of his views were “spiritual” and unscientific. Had he have been more scientific and rational (testing his claims rigorously) maybe things could’ve been different. And maybe he could’ve gotten help. But the hard truth is, is that some people with severe mental health may not be helpable.

Edited 5 hours ago by r0ckyreed

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

But my intuition is telling me that he did have some genuine interest in God and some insights on the matter.

I do not deny his mystical experiences. I'm sure they were profound for him. But care about truth he did not.

He got so corrupted because truth was never a priority for him.

He is a case-study in why truth is the highest value. Truth is the one thing that could have saved him.

If you do not set truth as your top value, things will not end well for you with this work.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[OBEler]

Jump to 1:40 till 1:43

It looked so believable. This character he played was not played. But he thought he played. What a mindfuck. This is a new level of self deception I never thought is possible. 

 

[Leo Gura]

When you play a character long enough, you become that character.

Hell, that's what you've been doing your whole life.

Do you have your character, or does your character have you?

Edited 4 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Opulence]

At 4.52, he says he has always been acting.

 

 

[Joshe]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

If you do not set truth as your top value, things will not end well for you with this work.

Some values are compatible with certain architectures and some aren’t. Truth cannot be valued in the abstract. It either has value for you or it doesn’t. And if it doesn’t, no matter how many times you claim to care about truth, it will always remain a conceptual ideal. Trying to force yourself to care about something you don’t is inauthentic. We are who we are and have to work with that. 

[Lyubov]

26 minutes ago, Opulence said:

At 4.52, he says he has always been acting.

 

 

He gave that speech like right before he went super crazy. He first did Aya in like spring 2020 then spent time in a mental hospital for a few days, faked his death or something I don't clearly remember, he was crying in a video. Like he said he was going to kill himself or something.

Then after he got out he made a spirituality channel where he started making videos on how it was a hoax and then other videos on spirituality. He went super hard into it. Started making videos talking about Leo and actualized, said he was a space tiger and posted a lot of schizo videos and schizo trip art. Cops called on him a few times (bodycam video psoted), riding around in his underwear in Austin Texas and he was drinking his own urine too (he said this himself) but idk if that's true or not. He also was making videos talking to that asian vlogger who did meditation and would talk about awakenings but I don't remember his name. He eventually had a huge episode and his parents and a girlfriend stepped in and then he went quiet. Was like May 2021 at this point he was making lots of weird videos like this one where he was doing yoga with homeless person. He cleaned up a bit after his big episode after or whatever (he deleted all his old videos and went quiet a while) and I didn't hear about him for years until I heard his name get brought up around the looksmaxxing trend, and now he is dead. I thought he got back on track but I was wrong. 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Lyubov

[r0ckyreed]

Technically Connor Murphy is right. God is acting; hence, that’s what an ego is. The self is an act, it’s a character that exists by acting like it exists. No act, no self. 

[Leo Gura]

45 minutes ago, Opulence said:

At 4.52, he says he has always been acting.

It's called self-deception, rationalization, denial.

I never bought his act for a minute.

Of course YouTube involves some acting. I act a bit too on camera. But he was also losing his common sense and acting reckless.

43 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Some values are compatible with certain architectures and some aren’t. Truth cannot be valued in the abstract. It either has value for you or it doesn’t. And if it doesn’t, no matter how many times you claim to care about truth, it will always remain a conceptual ideal. Trying to force yourself to care about something you don’t is inauthentic. We are who we are and have to work with that. 

Some are born to be clowns, some chimpanzees.

If you don't care about truth, I don't see how you can do true spirituality.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

Technically Connor Murphy is right. God is acting; hence, that’s what an ego is. The self is an act, it’s a character that exists by acting like it exists. No act, no self. 

His spiritual musings were never the issue. The issue is that he lost all common sense. He didn't think about negative outcomes at all. He didn't fail at spirituality, he failed at basic survival.

You can't become so spiritual that you start swimming with crocodiles thinking God will save you. No, God will eat you.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Lyubov]

 

the smoothie in this video looks like what is splattered in the house he trashed, i think he was on psychadelics when he drowned.

[OBEler]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

His spiritual musings were never the issue. The issue is that he lost all common sense. He didn't think about negative outcomes at all.

If you have such a physique like him you need a very good understanding of negative outcomes. However his 40 days fast could kill him and many other things after. So its quite complex.