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How do NDEs fit into Leo's framework?

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I've watched and read several reports of NDEs, and one thing they all have in common, is that the person dying becomes what I can best describe as a "point of awareness with 360 degrees vision" that can move anywhere in space and time and other dimensions.

Now, in Leo's framework and based on some of his videos I watched, there is either this limited ego self; or the Real Self, Infinite Consciousness. But what about this point of awareness that people talk about in NDEs? It seems like something in between. Is there like an intermediary step between ego consciousness and full-on God consciousness? Could we call it a soul? What is it really?

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@cistanche_enjoyer Where your head is is the illusion ego. When you detach from it you realize that reality is happening inside of a conciousness thats outside of the body in reality. So if you close your eyes right now and imagine something and open your eyes and look at reality, both those things are happening in the same spot. So the black space (ego) goes away and you realize you are the room. The room isnt thinking about anything.

You are the room making up a black space and talking to itself.

Like all that exists is a curtain of reality and you are that curtain making up that its the audience.

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I happen to have a friend who's very awake, Buddha/Jesus like, who experienced all of that and he says it depends on your level of awakening & baseline consciousness so yeah, NDEs are true but for the Buddhas and Jesuses of the world it's different - a kind of formless immortality.

I have experienced thousands of OBEs myself and I still have no direct experience of what happens after death - NDEs are different.

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13 minutes ago, Michal__ said:

I happen to have a friend who's very awake, Buddha/Jesus like, who experienced all of that and he says it depends on your level of awakening & baseline consciousness so yeah, NDEs are true but for the Buddhas and Jesuses of the world it's different - a kind of formless immortality.

I have experienced thousands of OBEs myself and I still have no direct experience of what happens after death - NDEs are different.

Thanks for sharing! Where are you and your friend from?

By the way another thing that's almost always present in NDE reports is a deep sense of immense, universal Love. This is what makes me believe that the reports are real, as I had myself very profound awakenings to Infinite Love. I have not yet experienced formless awarness that can move through space and time though.

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1 hour ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

the person dying becomes what I can best describe as a "point of awareness with 360 degrees vision" that can move anywhere in space and time and other dimensions.

That is God.

As I have said, death is God.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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