How do NDEs fit into Leo's framework?

[Loveeee]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

A normie certianly would be too afraid and clueless to choose it. The question is, Will it be forced on them anyway via death?

But even you said it gets boring 

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Loveeee said:

But even you said it gets boring 

Yes, but with death you don't have much choice. Death forces you to go where you would never willingly go.

You can be formless for eternity and then still incarnate once you're bored. You can sorta have both things, but not at once. Since you were just done with being human, it makes sense that formlessness would be appealing for awhile. Do you really want to immediately incarnate as another human? I doubt it.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Loveeee]

18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It requires death!

Reachable with psychedelics as you said? Even you still haven't though, how

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Loveeee said:

Reachable with psychedelics as you said?

Not pure Infinity Forever.

The highest levels of consciousness cannot be reached while limited by a human body/mind.

You'd have to become truly completely formless. I have not done that.

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[Loveeee]

59 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Do you really want to immediately incarnate as another human? I doubt it.

My human is too limited and infinite love is too unlimited I want something in the middle, and I don't wanna wait to die for that 

56 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The highest levels of consciousness cannot be reached while limited by a human body/mind.

I mean isn't tripping the undoing of that limit to some degree ? Plus there is no body/mind so how is that a factor 

But surely you've had states that had no trace of body or mind