Girl Power is a lie

[Xonas Pitfall]

16 minutes ago, integral said:

Not the same thing because no one is coming to rush over to help a man. A man cannot cry for empathy, he gets punched in the face.

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Men are not creating empathy social network networks to the same degree women are

I don't really know what you mean by "empathy social networks." If you think women will just be helped by anyone at any time, that's simply not true. There are plenty of women struggling in poverty, single mothers, unemployed women, homeless women, abused women, trafficked women, women trapped in violent relationships, women dealing with addiction, women with disabilities, elderly women living alone, women facing discrimination, exploitation, and all kinds of hardships. The narrative that any woman can automatically obtain a happy or comfortable life is very detached from reality. By that definition, you would never see a single struggling woman, which is obviously silly. Is this what you're arguing for, or...?

If you're talking about genders supporting and emotionally validating their own members when discussing gender-specific issues, then male spaces have huge amounts of that as well, as I brought up previously. There are countless podcasts, forums, YouTube channels, communities, and online groups where men provide empathy, validation, support, and reassurance to one another. In many cases, they're soothing their own emotions (empathy social networks) through these communities. I mean, the whole rise of the red pill community and podcasts was literally men bringing up male issues, specifically filtering for girls who reinforce those narratives, and making people famous who strengthen those beliefs. So, of course, it’s a mutual empathy network. If you think it’s not, then you’re fooling yourself.

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To be clear I never claimed women don't do this, but men do also. Just in different ways. 

And me as well, I think what Natasha and I are arguing for is simply that this is too myopic a view. It’s more an unhealthy human behavior, rather than something specific to women or mostly women.

Edited 4 hours ago by Xonas Pitfall

[Natasha Tori Maru]

To be clear I never claimed women don't do this, but men do also. Just in different ways. 

But the characterisation above is of an unhealthy woman performing to elicit empathy and action. 

[integral]

You guys are right I changed my mind.

If you look at Trump and how he uses emotional manipulation and empathy and all these emotional tactics to Rally up voters and sway the direction of the conversations through chaos, it is exactly what I've observed in most women I interact with.

It's the same bullshit to build machine.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by integral

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, integral said:

You guys are right I changed my mind.

If you look at Trump and how he uses emotional manipulation and empathy and all these emotional tactics to Rally up voters and sway the direction of the conversations through chaos, it is exactly what I've observed in most women I interact with.

It's the same bullshit to build machine.

 

It's what Leo always repeats - corruption corruption corruption! 

It's in human nature to manipulate coerce and leverage what systems they can to get ahead. I can see exactly what you point to regarding women and how they leverage the softer emotions to their advantage.

Hard respect and admiration, Integral - that you have the ability to drop frame & seriously entertain a different perspective. Most here just egoically cling to their points. And not in good faith! 

[Osaid]

2 hours ago, integral said:

You guys are right I changed my mind.

If you look at Trump and how he uses emotional manipulation and empathy and all these emotional tactics to Rally up voters and sway the direction of the conversations through chaos, it is exactly what I've observed in most women I interact with.

It's the same bullshit to build machine.

 

It's almost like hatred, envy, and narcissism isn't actually inherent to either gender (contrary to all the posts in this section of the forum) 🤔🤔🤔