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14 hours ago, LordFall said:

Which one of his points do you think I misunderstood? 

 If someone is not comfortable with sexuality and doesn't wish to get over that discomfort and thus raise their bodycount then that's their life I don't really care. For me sexuality is thrilling, fulfilling and an exciting adventure so I have pursued plenty of partners in the past and plan to pursue many other sexual connections. Increasing bodycount is just a consequence of that, it's not really the concept that's worth getting stuck over.

So anyone who does not place high value on sex is just not sexually comfortable for you? Can't you see how reductionist you are in all your arguments?

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12 hours ago, LordFall said:

Having sex with escorts is alright, your own girlfriend is way better though. Then you can cuddle also which in some ways is better than sex. I will try it with two girlfriends and report back. 

It's also fun to fuck in different place its a different feeling each time. The woods feel very primal even if it's not comfortable. 

I deleted my comment it was a bad energy behind.

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14 hours ago, LordFall said:

Which one of his points do you think I misunderstood? 

 If someone is not comfortable with sexuality and doesn't wish to get over that discomfort and thus raise their bodycount then that's their life I don't really care. For me sexuality is thrilling, fulfilling and an exciting adventure so I have pursued plenty of partners in the past and plan to pursue many other sexual connections. Increasing bodycount is just a consequence of that, it's not really the concept that's worth getting stuck over.

I'm not really into one night stands so for me building a polycule is the next logical step in my life. I aim to date a few bisexual women and travel the world with them and sleep with women all around the world.

I'm also bisexual myself so perhaps that's another key to this discussion, I'm more comfortable in sexuality than most people. I'm just starting to explore that side of life so far it's been a good time! 

I appreciate the creative ways in which you go about your business. Sounds like you have a fun and rewarding system going there as far as purpose and relationships go.

Nevertheless, @Natasha Tori Maru is right when she says:

14 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I simply cannot see a tier 2 thinker aiming for high bodycount as any sort of valid goal. There is nothing progressive about attaching to a concept like bodycount.

No one has supplied a good argument for this. Bodycount is totally meaningless.

Reason being, just because you talk about all of this in a highly systemized, elegant, nuanced way doesn't automatically make it "Tier II." To think so is to completely misunderstand what Tier II, is full stop.

I mean dude, who needs to say this:

13 hours ago, LordFall said:

Having sex with escorts is alright, your own girlfriend is way better though. Then you can cuddle also which in some ways is better than sex. I will try it with two girlfriends and report back. 

It's also fun to fuck in different place its a different feeling each time. The woods feel very primal even if it's not comfortable. 

Glad you're enjoying, but nobody asked. How does this relate to the thread, except proving @Valach's low consciousness point...

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20 minutes ago, WonderSeeker said:

I appreciate the creative ways in which you go about your business. Sounds like you have a fun and rewarding system going there as far as purpose and relationships go.

Nevertheless, @Natasha Tori Maru is right when she says:

Reason being, just because you talk about all of this in a highly systemized, elegant, nuanced way doesn't automatically make it "Tier II." To think so is to completely misunderstand what Tier II, is full stop.

I mean dude, who needs to say this:

Glad you're enjoying, but nobody asked. How does this relate to the thread, except proving @Valach's low consciousness point...

I am not here to talk down on dating casually and whatnot. Do that if you are in that phase. But we are on a platform about consciousness and related stuff and I feel like it is fair to not glamorize this lifestyle and not pretend like it is some high value thing to do.

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The funny other side of the coin on this post?

As a chick - some guys actually use body count as a negative metric. "Women having a high body count devalues her." 


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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1 minute ago, Valach said:

I am not here to talk down on dating casually and whatnot. Do that if you are in that phase. But we are on a platform about consciousness and related stuff and I feel like it is fair to not glamorize this lifestyle and not pretend like it is some high value thing to do.

It is not really inherently high value or low value. Some people who have a lot of casual sex are doing it unethically and unconsciously and some are doing it ethically and consciously.

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17 minutes ago, something_else said:

It is not really inherently high value or low value. Some people who have a lot of casual sex are doing it unethically and unconsciously and some are doing it ethically and consciously.

Your approach to dating is definitely important and I hope everyone around here does it ethically. But you are still pursuing pleasure, nothing else. There is no virtuousness or high consciousness about this. Just as watching football on the TV is not gonna be high consciousness pursuit even if you do it "consciously".

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7 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

The funny other side of the coin on this post?

As a chick - some guys actually use body count as a negative metric. "Women having a high body count devalues her." 

I have even met plenty of woman who said that about me. It's not gendered. But guys do it more often probably.

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21 minutes ago, Valach said:

Your approach to dating is definitely important and I hope everyone around here does it ethically. But you are still pursuing pleasure, nothing else. There is no virtuousness or high consciousness about this. Just as watching football on the TV is not gonna be high consciousness pursuit even if you do it "consciously".

It's not really clear to me why pursuing pleasure is inherently wrong. It only becomes a problem if it is pursued to the degree that it severely interferes with other things in your life.

Also, especially as a guy, dating casually can force you to confront a lot of your fears as well. It definitely grows you.

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7 minutes ago, something_else said:

It's not really clear to me why pursuing pleasure is inherently wrong. It only becomes a problem if it is pursued to the degree that it severely interferes with other things in your life.

Also, especially as a guy, dating casually can force you to confront a lot of your fears as well. It definitely grows you.

There is growth in it, that is true. Though a lot of guys I met also used prolonged "casual" dating phase as a way to avoid confronting other fears of theirs (fear of intimacy, fear of rejection, fear of not being good enough etc..).I am not saying it is inherently wrong - I am just saying it is of "lower" values. I mean stoics spoke about this 2500 years ago. Hedonism in itself does not lead to happy, fulfilled life. And what most of our society considers as "fun" or "pleasure" is a refined strategy to avoid our own inner wounds. Dating in general is the most common way for people to numb out.

Edit: 69th comment in this topic, nice

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1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

The funny other side of the coin on this post?

As a chick - some guys actually use body count as a negative metric. "Women having a high body count devalues her." 

The opposite is also true; men having no bodycount 

 

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