Drama Alert! Another YTber is calling us a cult! 😈☦️

[zurew]

5 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Okay, but can you agree then, that by that very definition of using suicidal moments as pointers to psychotic tendencies, that most people on this forum have potential psychotic tendencies ?

Sure, given the underdetermination issue - the answer to that question is yes, they potentially do.

6 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Have you not had any suicidal moments in your life ?

I had, yeah.

Not sure whats the argument from here.

[Wilhelm44]

9 minutes ago, zurew said:

Not sure whats the argument from here.

The point is that if everyone in a group has potential psychotic tendencies, then by these metrics, no one would qualify as a suitable leader. ie if you were the leader of this group, there would also be the potential for you to lose it one day and steer the group down a dark path, just as would be the case for everyone else here.

Edited 3 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[zurew]

26 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

The point is that if everyone in a group has potential psychotic tendencies, then by these metrics, no one would qualify as a suitable leader.

I dont think that follows from what I said. 

My whole case is precisely to show that having potential psychotic tendencies is not enough to get you to such a conclusion, because of the underdetermination issue.

The recognition of the underdetermination gets you to go on an investigation journey, but does not automatically disqualify someone from being a leader under my view.

Edited 2 hours ago by zurew

[Wilhelm44]

4 minutes ago, zurew said:

I dont think that follows from what I said. 

My whole case is precisely to show that having potential psychotic tendencies is not enough to get you to such a conclusion, because of the underdetermination issue.

Aha, got it.

I think that yesterday you narrowed this whole drama down to 3 very succinct points.

Hopefully one of the mods will approach Leo soon with some kind of formal statement, so that resolution can be found, and we can finally close this thread.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Hopefully one of the mods will approach Leo soon with some kind of formal statement, so that resolution can be found, and we can finally close this thread.

Do you think this discussion necessitates some form of action, conclusion or acknowledgement? 

Because if this is the reason for the extensive engagement on your behalf, you might be up for disappointment. Not sure if anyone feels a compulsion for any sort of formality.

We can all agree to disagree and nothing can come of it, as one potentiality.

[Wilhelm44]

5 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

We can all agree to disagree and nothing can come of it, as one potentiality.

Of course.