Drama Alert! Another YTber is calling us a cult! 😈☦️

[Wilhelm44]

4 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

And it's really curious, because like I said, me and probably others did not (as far as I can remember) feel personally threatened or exploited in personal interactions with the leader, but despite that, it evolved to a place where a suggested solution was to essentially remove somebody from the surface of the Earth. So we went quickly from what somebody like you guys in the thread (at least earlier) would be very firm is not a cult, to a Manson or Jim Jones situation. All through some odd beliefs and a charismatic leader presenting them as an option with their conviction and trance-inducing charisma.

Don't you think though that the heavy emphasis that Leo has placed on teaching epistemology etc should ensure that something like that could never happen here ?

 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Don't you think though that the heavy emphasis that Leo has placed on teaching epistemology etc should ensure that something like that could never happen here ?

That reason that won't happen here is because I won't allow it. If I allowed it, it could happen.

Actualized.org is focused entirely on education. There will not be any other nonsense here.

Edited 7 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Don't you think though that the heavy emphasis that Leo has placed on teaching epistemology etc should ensure that something like that could never happen here ?

The leader of the Discord was an ex-forum member. And many of the members were recruited from the forum.

[Human Mint]

3 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

I felt existentially threatened and rattled for years after the cult. Why the need to delegitimize people's experiences? Why the need to make denigrating comparisons? Could it be that there are different kinds of cults, different reasons why one would be compelled to call something a cult? Maybe actually study what a cult is on your own without soelly relying on the videos by your cult leader.

Could it be that your experience made you paranoid about this place?

[integral]

All the moderators here are in fact given a kill switch, if we all press it at the same time Leo gets Perma Banned.

This is how serious we are about cultish resurections  

[Yali]

35 minutes ago, integral said:

All the moderators here are in fact given a kill switch, if we all press it at the same time Leo gets Perma Banned.

 

Are you serious?

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Yali

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

37 minutes ago, integral said:

All the moderators here are in fact given a kill switch, if we all press it at the same time Leo gets Perma Banned.

And he's then got a button for ressurection, I assume?😀

[integral]

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

And he's then got a button for ressurection, I assume?😀

Assumption correct. But Leo must first prove to us that he has regained his Epistemic honor.

Edited 3 hours ago by integral

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, integral said:

All the moderators here are in fact given a kill switch, if we all press it at the same time Leo gets Perma Banned.

Keep dreaming.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Raze]

If you look up the standards for a cult just about any institution in society and society as a whole fit it.

 

[Carl-Richard]

4 hours ago, Human Mint said:

Could it be that your experience made you paranoid about this place?

What exactly do you mean?

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Raze said:

If you look up the standards for a cult just about any institution in society and society as a whole fit it.

This is for people who have not actually learned what a cult is.

As I keep telling you guys, cults involve mind control.

Instead of all this back-and-forth, you could just read the books on my book list about cults and understand.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Joseph Maynor]

The power of someone who controls a finite system is what it is no matter what they say they are in relation to you.