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What's the point of life?

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You make your own meaning. Ok. So what's your meaning. What's the point of life for every person? 

It must be something more than eating bananas or watching the sunset. These things are wonderful but they aren't really enough, are they?

What are some possible meanings in life, what's the point of it?

 

Socialization, making a family, helping others, art, hobbies? I can't think of something else. Is this it?

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What about realising God, Truth, Love, experiencing joy, sharing your joy with others, being loving, developing your mind, fulfilling desires of your soul... 

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Significance, purpose, coherence, mattering.

 

On 24.3.2026 at 7:03 PM, Carl-Richard said:

Meaning (in life) can be described by significance, purpose, coherence, mattering. But I think it extends metaphysically as well. They all boil down to how our cognition is structured and how our survival occurs at even a biological level.

Without significance, nothing has innate value (nothing has true quality or qualia, it's only just means to an end, an end which has no ground but another mean, which feels empty in itself; any endevor must inevitably point to something truly valueable, something truly real, to feel meaningful).

Purpose is means to an end, and it creates impetus, telos, movement. Organisms that move are very clear expressions of this form of meaning. If you're an organism that moves but with no purpose, you will struggle to know where to move and your movement will be inhibited and you will feel like you're not "going anywhere"; the moving organism needs to move to be truly alive.

Coherence means that the "movement" (be it abstract in the realm of mind or concretely in the realm of physical movement) makes sense, it coheres to an environment, it coheres to a set of conditions, it follows logically.

Mattering is simply do all of these things transcend merely my own self in their value, do they matter to something bigger than myself (e.g. my species in terms of biological reproduction or simply more abstractly in terms of the collective survival of the species)?

 

I might add some examples of significance because it was a bit abstract: the taste of ice cream, the feeling of wind across your skin, the feeling of love and warmth from your lover's touch, the experience of fun, laughter, contentment, sadness, etc.

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Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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9 hours ago, Never_give_up said:

Socialization, making a family, helping others, art, hobbies? I can't think of something else. Is this it?

What are some of the highest things you know about and how do you go about sharing it to most people?


Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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If you accept that there is a point to life, then love in all its forms is it.


The future can be real. The future can be again.

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Relative.

I choose as ideals:

Expansion of consciousness. Deepening of understanding. Appreciation of beauty.

Spiritual development in its myriad of circus acts.


Madness lies just beyond the veil of sanity

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To learn what you need to learn and then be in the present moment as much as you can

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Acquiring rare and valuable skills, and using them to help make the world a better place is one.


There is no failure, only feedback

One small step at a time. No one climbs a mountain in one go.

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There is no point to life at all . You can enjoy it fully .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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On 10/5/2026 at 1:58 AM, Never_give_up said:

You make your own meaning. Ok. So what's your meaning. What's the point of life for every person? 

It must be something more than eating bananas or watching the sunset. These things are wonderful but they aren't really enough, are they?

What are some possible meanings in life, what's the point of it?

 

Socialization, making a family, helping others, art, hobbies? I can't think of something else. Is this it?

Convergence in infinity.

Point is a 0-dimensional object: a lightwave you meet in external space in Dilbert's spaces, who is just accidentially syncrhonious to spiritual speak of: infinities. Limit function is what converges in infinity: but it's unfolding, by Godel, a transcendence you never achieve. Dukkha, sin, long-term thermodynamics and light waves: all in one go.

You can start from eating bananas and watching the sunset. But this is not a complete life: as minutes, days, years and centuries pass, you are banana sick and allergic to sunlight: instead, you move to cage under the ground because of missing movement.

Me too, I used to watch sunlight only with one banana, but over time: sunsets became especially expensive, and over time, government changed policies to make them illegal. People still thought that was good idea: but more clever people they said they had unconceivable experience of sunset without sunset, a direct experience of bed, relaxing time with their wife and children. Various fruits. Some vacation. But they did not eat bananas: that was a mystical, ancient horror, like a woo-doo magic: their ancestors got addicted, they were sitting for days in meditational posture, watching the sunset beyond an image of sunset, and physically behind it: some lamps, always, allowed the essential function - to *see*. They never slept, they were ridicuously hard-working and trained men for this century, which never really understood them. Sometimes, they spoke that this must be the real depth of the soul: fact of survival, was just scientifically hard to explain.

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