Who's actually pickier in dating: men or women?

[CARDOZZO]

52 minutes ago, Tenebroso said:

You are right in your observations but I feel like it's too late for me, life isn't fair and not all problems have solutions. There isn't someone for everyone and you forgot another option..........jumping off a bridge.

Suicide is not an option. NEVER!

You should open up with us. We don't know who you are, be free and express yourself.

Why do you think is late to turn your life on a new trajectory? 

How can you start forgiving woman for what they did to you?

Edited 6 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[CARDOZZO]

55 minutes ago, Tenebroso said:

not all problems have solutions

Which are your unsolvable problems? 

Be honest, open, direct - we can help.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Tenebroso nope. That is your projection.

People, men and woman. Are equally capable of being full of shit. Mean. Status seeking. Materialistic. 

I just see where you have a cognitive bias - and that bias is also projecting onto me. You see arrogance and self righteous where there is just firm understanding and hard words. It's just coming from a female so it hits different. 

We are debating about your views regarding women, and how they are solely negative. I know there are bad women out there. But if we are to counter this claim you have, it won't do to bring up examples of bad woman that will further cement this. What exactly do you want to hear? That people are selfish and full of shit? The problem is... That quality has nothing to do with sex. Man or woman. It's the same across the board. 

Read all of my posts again, and you will realise I never said women are faultless, saints, angels, goddesses. Really really read my posts. It was never even inplied. You will realise you filled in the gaps with information to perpetuate a narrative. It didn't come from me. It's a narrative spun by algorithms to keep you in a state of lack and powerlessness. And I fucking hate that this manosphere content does this to people.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Miguel1]

Okay, this is getting very intense. Natasha is correct here, but if we have a person with suicidal thoughts, we need to keep in mind soft love, empathy and compassion. Fragile people need different love than secure people.

As Cardozzo said, we have ton of positive experience with women here. If you @Tenebroso open up more about your situation, we can help you.

[Tenebroso]

I am 34. I have never been on a date or had a girlfriend. My only kiss happened on a school trip where the girls were playing a game and the loser had to kiss me.

I was born with a birth injury and spent my childhood in and out of hospital. Due to my birth injury I am very weak for a grown man and got bullied physically and verbally at school. A girl said I would die a virgin (probably going to be right).

My father was an abusive sociopath who had multiple children with multiple women. I still have half siblings I have never met.

My older sister died of an auto immune disorder last year.

I am tired of being gaslighted and being given advice that doesn't match the reality I have experienced and observed. I receive more vitriol for sharing my views than men who actually harm women. I believe many people on this forum and in spiritual communities in general are arrogant. A lot of you believe you are more evolved and intelligent than you are and communicate from this lofty, self appointed pedestal but I see the same immature attitudes to being challenged that you get in lower stages of development. Most of you are only interested in communication that reinforces you are better than the person you are communicating with.

I see this especially with women and men who see themselves as self designated "Good Men" but you are all full of crap. Maybe suicide is the best option, what's the point of persisting in good faith in a reality like this. Maybe it's the best for everyone, one less loser in your way so all you wonderful, perfect, evolved people can share your reality together because that is how life works right........"just be a good person", "respect women", "just be yourself".

Edited 9 minutes ago by Tenebroso

[CARDOZZO]

1 hour ago, Tenebroso said:

I am 34. I have never been on a date or had a girlfriend. My only kiss happened on a school trip where the girls were playing a game and had to kiss me.

Dude, you're 34. You have a lot of room for improvement. There are a lot of guys working on themselves on their 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s. Leo started on his pickup journey almost 30.

1 hour ago, Tenebroso said:

I was born with a birth injury and spent my childhood in and out of hospital. Due to my birth injury I am very weak for a grown man and got bullied physically and verbally at school. A girl said I would die a virgin (probably going to be right).

If you want to be more specific, what is your birth injury? Can you walk? talk? move? are you on a wheelchair? 

I also got bullied in school, no worries, we all have been.

Do you remember how many people bullied you? Is it fair that one girl had the power to determine your sexual life? Why this specific girl was able to determine who you were/are as a man? 

1 hour ago, Tenebroso said:

My father was an abusive sociopath who had multiple children with multiple women. I still have half siblings I have never met.

Sorry to hear that. What can you do to today to forgive your father to move on with your life?

1 hour ago, Tenebroso said:

My older sister died of an auto immune disorder last year.

That is bad man, I'm sorry for your loss.

1 hour ago, Tenebroso said:

I am tired of being gaslighted and being given advice that doesn't match the reality I have experienced and observed. I receive more vitriol for sharing my views than men who actually harm women. I believe many people on this forum and in spiritual communities in general are arrogant. A lot of you believe you are more evolved and intelligent than you are and communicate from this lofty, self appointed pedestal but I see the same immature attitudes to being challenged that you get in lower stages of development. Most of you are only interested in communication that reinforces you are better than the person you are communicating with.

I got you.

We pretend that we are on 2nd Tier Spiral Dynamics. I know your experience of life was/is tough to deal with. 

If I was you, I would seek this steps to deal with your issues. What I would do:

1. Therapy: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) (If you don't have money, use ChatGPT or Gemini - better than nothing).
2. Meditation, Contemplation - 30m/day 
3. Sun (You need SUN in your SKIN)
4. Clean Diet + Fasting (12h-16h) + Water (3L/day)
5. Long Walks (3km-5km), Running, Lifting (#1 priority is mental/physical health)
6. Content Consumption (AVOID: Incel, Red Pill, Black Pill, Nihilistic, MGTOW)

I can relate how tough your life is. You have to process a lot of things inside yourself. I would do an experiment to live like a Monk, Sage, Mystic for 1 year. Actually, your issues are not related to woman at all. 

You just need to clean your lenses, deal with your past experiences, forgive those who hurt you, forgive yourself. 

Edited 6 minutes ago by CARDOZZO