suicide consuquences

[Franz_]

I’ve noticed that a lot of religions seem to say that if someone dies by suicide something worse happens than if they just die normally.

Like in Christianity people talk about going to hell, in Buddhism some people say it can lead to a worse rebirth, etc. or just rebirth

Do you think there’s actually some truth behind that? Or do you think religions mainly added those ideas to scare people away from doing it?

@Leo Gura just curious about what you and everyone here think about that

Edited 9 hours ago by Franz_

[Willy Phallicus]

If there was no threat of hell I would have blown my fuckin head off a long time ago.  Another part of me says there's nothing to lose because there's nothing to save.

I don't really believe any of that but just in case this experience is not just an accidental absurdity but rather a gift given in good faith through good will by a living transcendence of pure freedom and infinitely exquisite and boundless joy that holds a promise too marvelous to be imagined, it might be worth sticking around to see it through.  So that's what I hang my hat on these days.

[Hojo]

Depends on how you do it. Most people who suicide do it out of anger or fear or sadness. Well if you have those and take the headset off those emotions compound x 1000000. Then when you put the headset back on there you are in the same state and the world will reflect that.

People think that suicide will help them somehow releive their emotional and mental problems. Your emotions are before all your theories linguistical problems. Take the linguistics away and the emotions are still there.

Only now you cant stop yourself and think them through.

You cant actually kill yourself. People that try are trying to run from something they cant get away from even in death.

The headset is there as a vehicle to change your states as God. Once in God mode you cant change your state you are the state.

Edited 8 hours ago by Hojo

[vibv]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

You cant actually kill yourself. People that try are trying to run from something they cant get away from even in death.

Exactly. Here on Earth is your chance to do the work, not in some kind of afterlife.

It has cost a lot of work & time to get you to the place you're at now, don't just throw it away. You'd have to live all of this again (in some way or another) just to start working on those issues again.

[Yeah Yeah]

I want out - Like if I'm infinite god intelligence then where is the exit button or do I have to commit suicide - spiritual teachers love to say oh you are awareness of the dream character, you are not the identity being played, but you are the conciosuness making this happen, and they say I am god and yet they do not explain how to wake up from this dream - I want out - Government assisted suicide should be legalzied for all time periods and cultures of human history and civilizations - I hate life.

Edited 1 hour ago by Yeah Yeah

[Yeah Yeah]

I'm not afraid what happens after since my personal research and spiritual insights point to heavenly realms and unconditional love as the ground of being on the other side - What prevents me from committing suicide is the brain damage and survival worse off if it fails and once you attempt to end the body you can't control the outcome - Also there is the problem of spirit guides or Christ conciosuenss avatars in the astral realms that could possibly dictate what happens to you next and force you back into another life or body or to come back in the broken body you tried to exit but honestly I want to bitch slap the spirit guides and get answers what the fuck is going on 

Edited 2 hours ago by Yeah Yeah

[cetus]

18 minutes ago, Yeah Yeah said:

my personal research and spiritual insights point to heavenly realms and unconditional love as the ground of being on the other side -

 You can access everything you speak of here and now.

[Leo Gura]

Only one way to find out.

But I advise against that experiment.

[Willie]

Isn’t life and death a duality that collapses? I’m not sure suicide solves anything.