Butters

What is a Mind?

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In other words: what is an incarnation? What is one person, or one mind or one soul exactly? 

All distinctions are imaginary. So why do we call one human an incarnation, and not a rock? Nothing seperates the human from the rock, yet we see a baby being born as a unique soul. 

Isn't that a paradox? 

Why can't I incarnate as one baby and one rock, in the same one incarnation? Why only as one baby? Why not as one baby and one old lady into one incarnation? I don't mean conjoined physically, I mean counting that as one incarnation. 

Is one bacteria an incarnation? Can I incarnate as one gut bacteria, or does that count towards one human? 

So I seem to have this human experience. Is there a gut bacteria experience? If so, that means my human body is having trillions of unique soul experiences at once. This gets weird when you think about it. 

Gets weirder if you assume time is imagined. Then I could incarnate in reverse time and weird shit like that. 

Leo talks a lot about human bias, human this and that. But wtf is a human? 

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I think you can incarnate as the relationship between a group of people.

Human is a special rock because it can see conciousness. A rock dosent think it exists.

If you die your conciousness could just sit in the floor in a room for eternity not even knowing anything is happening.

Until a loud noise scares you.

It goes beyond rocks. Imagine in your room there are a kazillion points of conciousness sitting there not even realizing they exist.

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You could just as well say you incarnated as everything. It's a matter of framing.

If you take the literal sense of the word as being "in the flesh", then you have to ask the question, why have you incarnated as an entity that only believes their flesh is what they are?


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36 minutes ago, Butters said:

But wtf is a human? 

The figment of something else's dream.  Human is the pattern that the dreamer has conjured.

There's no separation between rock and baby but there are plenty of differences (once the mind starts applying labels).  I don't know where souls fit into that equation.  There's no shortage of paradoxes however.

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2 hours ago, Butters said:

But wtf is a human?

A costume you invented.

Happy Halloween ;)

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4 hours ago, Butters said:

conjoined physically

You read my post.


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If all distinctions are imaginary, then so is a rock.


What if this is just fascination + identity + seriousness being inflated into universal importance?

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Man is the ingenious device of conjuring up a mirror

to look and inspect how glorious one's technicolor appearance is

from a never again to be repeated perspective.

Blink and you miss the whole show.

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Am definitely more confused than before I posted this, but sometimes the pondering is the fun. This doesn't really seem to have a properly understandable answer I think. 

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A mind is a universe within another universe, capable of creating structured representations called thoughts and thus manipulating both the external universe and itself. 

A mind is limited but can break it's limits and be one with the unlimited, then a mind is an expression of the unlimited that operates in limited form. The mind is wonderful, it's a supreme expression of reality. 

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1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

A mind is a universe within another universe, capable of creating structured representations called thoughts and thus manipulating both the external universe and itself. 

I like this definition, but do I understand correctly you only mean humans? Or do you think animals have thoughts? 

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46 minutes ago, Butters said:

I like this definition, but do I understand correctly you only mean humans? Or do you think animals have thoughts? 

The minds of animals are limited to stimulus-response patterns. Social animals like monkeys feel emotions, recognize themselves as individuals, and plan strategies that are, to a certain extent, original, but their degree of freedom is limited. In humans, things change; it's another phase of existence, just as animals with affectivity are different phase from those without, as are animals with brains and those without, multicellular organisms, unicellular organisms, unicellular self preservated and complex molecules self replicated like arn, atoms, vibrations, etc. 

The human mind can potentially free itself completely from its genetic conditioning and open itself to possibilities unimaginable to other beings, such as understanding the relativity of space-time, the physics of the foundations of reality, and possibilities that we have not yet intuited. 

The human mind is built upon the matter of an evolving biological organism, but it separates itself from it in the sense that it breaks the bonds of primary conditioning and expands and operates as a living being outside the biological realm.

It is not limited; within a single lifetime, it can make an evolutionary leap more radical than biology in tens of thousands of generations exploring unexplored fields and setting basis for the next level. From the Paleolithic era to space travel, there is but a blink of an eye in geological time.

The future seems to point toward symbiosis with the machine, the control of genetics, of biology, and who knows, perhaps the mastery of matter, of reality at the level of its fundamental fields, the understanding of the dimensional structures of reality, and perhaps even dominion over them. From what we see of reality, its capacity to structure coherent patterns of increasing complexity is limitless. 

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