A Good Person Is A Social Person

[vibv]

5 minutes ago, Cred said:

How did you come to that conclusion?

Look where we are now.

[Joseph Maynor]

This is kind of an unusual insight and a half-truth but a good person generally puts people and other beings at ease and causes others to identify with the peaceful/non-threatening side of life, the opposite of defensive relation.  

[Leo Gura]

@Joseph Maynor Just don't forgot lots of good people get killed.

[VioletFlame]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If everyone sat alone in a room all day, half the world's problems would be solved overnight.

Haha

@Leo Gura Yes, self-inquiry and deep contemplation are the antidotes for not only understanding ourselves, but everyone else, as well.

Though it can be perceived as inertia, sitting alone in a room all day is actually one of the most productive & constructive decisions any human being can make. Quite life-changing & profound, actually.

7 hours ago, Butters said:

Like helping someone in need, even when it doesn't benefit you at all. But the only way to do that is by having social interaction. 

So, a good person is of course a social person. You can't tell me that you sit inside all day and are somehow a good person. 

It's not that black and white. You can do a "good deed" without saying a single word, and that's pure selflessness and humility. Also, I have met plenty of "social", extroverted people who disguise themselves as "good people", when in all realness, they can be the least honest, least virtuous, least trustworthy, least respectful, civil people out there. It's all a facade.

Edited 19 hours ago by VioletFlame

[Carl-Richard]

4 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This is kind of an unusual insight and a half-truth but a good person generally puts people and other beings at ease and causes others to identify with the peaceful/non-threatening side of life, the opposite of defensive relation.  

Or protects against people who do harm by perhaps being an asshole.

[Joseph Maynor]

44 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Or protects against people who do harm by perhaps being an asshole.

Fair point.  I meant the general moral orientation, not excluding protective force when harm is present.

[Leo Gura]

Good is doing what is in the best interest of the other.

[Hasson_Miah]

user Cred is riding hardcore.

 

I agree with OP because prosocial people are beneficial to others and therefore good.

 

The opposite of pro social is anti-social aka these hardcore internet guys. 

[Cred]

26 minutes ago, Hasson_Miah said:

The opposite of pro social is anti-social aka these hardcore internet guys

Why are you talking to people on the internet right now then? Why aren't you outside and talking to people? Aren't you being a bad bad individual right now by your own standarts? 

Edited 13 hours ago by Cred

[Butters]

So what I meant is more like: when somebody drops a hot pan and they get upset, if someone comes over to help clean that up then they'll be much less upset or not at all. 

See? There you have it. By being social, this person is doing good. 

I never said all social people are good. I said to do good, you got to be at least SOME level of social. In other words: good deeds are done in the social domain. 

[UnbornTao]

9 minutes ago, Butters said:

So what I meant is more like: when somebody drops a hot pan and they get upset, if someone comes over to help clean that up then they'll be much less upset or not at all. 

See? There you have it. By being social, this person is doing good. 

I never said all social people are good. I said to do good, you got to be at least SOME level of social. In other words: good deeds are done in the social domain. 

If I am walking alone on a path and see some rocks obstructing the way, set them aside, and continue without interacting with anyone, would that be considered 'not good' according to your perspective here? Just a thought experiment.

Oh, I just read your last sentence. I guess this example would still be included in your definition.

Edited 4 hours ago by UnbornTao

[gettoefl]

1 hour ago, Butters said:

So what I meant is more like: when somebody drops a hot pan and they get upset, if someone comes over to help clean that up then they'll be much less upset or not at all. 

See? There you have it. By being social, this person is doing good. 

I never said all social people are good. I said to do good, you got to be at least SOME level of social. In other words: good deeds are done in the social domain. 

This is because we believe actions make a difference. The only power in the universe is mind. You can't change anyone. You can heal everyone. Being social is licking each other's wounds. The sick contaminating the sick and all trying to feel better keeping each other in prison. We need to wake up.

[Hasson_Miah]

@Cred

9 hours ago, Cred said:

Why are you talking to people on the internet right now then? Why aren't you outside and talking to people? Aren't you being a bad bad individual right now by your own standarts? 

I am on the internet right now because I have finished eating Iftar with my mother and have had an eventful day at work as a Teaching Assistant. 

I am not outside right now because I want to be home and check this forum. 

I am not being a bad individual right now by my standards because I have done both pro social activity throughout the day.

Maybe your black and white thinking can be addressed?

[Butters]

1 hour ago, gettoefl said:

This is because we believe actions make a difference. The only power in the universe is mind. You can't change anyone. You can heal everyone. Being social is licking each other's wounds. The sick contaminating the sick and all trying to feel better keeping each other in prison. We need to wake up.

Oh damn, this is a really good point I had forgotten about. Touché. 

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Butters said:

So what I meant is more like: when somebody drops a hot pan and they get upset, if someone comes over to help clean that up then they'll be much less upset or not at all. 

No one is obligated to help clean up your mess though. It is healthier for you to clean it up yourself.

People fetishize this dependency on others, getting others do work they should just do themselves.

If you trip on the sidewalk, pick yourself up and carry on. Don't make a big drama of it.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[gettoefl]

1 hour ago, Butters said:

Oh damn, this is a really good point I had forgotten about. Touché. 

Glad to see that you are amenable and gracious. The mind is awesomely powerful. What helped me learn to take change of the mind is A Course in Miracles. I commend it to you. For example one of its lessons is, I am not upset for the reason I think, I think people are upsetting me, right? No. I have decided I want to be upset and so I choose to project that and blame someone. My mind does it all. It fixes the whole world exactly as we see it. We have made it and likewise we can unmake it.

So how to be a good. First gain control of the mind rather than being its slave as everyone is. The course has 365 lessons to help one per day. Once the mind is brought to heel, it will tell you what to do. This is called divine guidance. It is God pulling the strings and using you as his instrument. This is the only good there is. 

Edited 11 minutes ago by gettoefl