Is it healthy to say one is God?

[AION]

It is like saying "I'm the world" while you are just a small piece of the world. It is grotesque ego inflation of an ego maniac. 

Just imagine a room with people and everybody says they are god. How would they get along? They wouldn't.

Therefore I think it is an abomination and I think it opens the door for physical and mental problems, plus you will become destructive for yourself and others and your productivity will hit the bottom.

God always punishes such people and if read the scriptures and if you don't believe the scripture you can just observe people who say that and how they turn out to be. 

There is no point in saying it too. Like if you say it you ain't it. And if you are it you don't have to say it. A king doesn't have to say he is the king nor a baker in a bakery shop will say he is a baker. If you have to say it you are not it. Just prove it. Pull a rabbit out of your ass.

Edited yesterday at 03:53 PM by AION

[Anton Rogachevski]

It depends what you mean by that word. If one thinks of God as a king and as a ruler of some sort, then absolutely not.

In my conception God is nature, it's a child that sees through our eyes, and learns through our mistakes. It's humble to be it, not arrogant.

Edited 23 hours ago by Anton Rogachevski

[vibv]

WE are God.

We are One.

Edited yesterday at 04:32 PM by vibv

[Yimpa]

A recognition of God does all the communicating. Ego shuts down.

Edited 17 hours ago by Yimpa

[gettoefl]

I am God, is ego. We are God, is truth. Should we say it? The statement communicates two truths - equality and identity. Teach it rather than speak it. This is what it means to be religious. If the other is irreligious and/or atheistic, they are antagonistic and damaged. They don't want to be taught and healed. If they are willing, teach the above. Everyone is called. Few have a desire to listen. In all cases, be a good religious role model. To teach is to demonstrate what God means every waking moment. God is the only meaning there is.

Edited yesterday at 04:53 PM by gettoefl

[Hojo]

If your toenail said I am 'your name' would you say your toenail is being unhealthy? 

Or would you say you go girl!

Edited 12 hours ago by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

14 hours ago, AION said:

God always punishes such people and if read the scriptures and if you don't believe the scripture you can just observe people who say that and how they turn out to be. 

There's some big implications and inferences with this statement.

For clarity; you believe in God, and that she/he/it is something outside you, that is an arbitrator of morality or truth?

[Zigzag Idiot]

A lot depends on the worldview of those who are around you. It invites trouble. Especially when you're surrounded by fundamentalists of any religion with exceptions. Referring to oneself as God or being one with God has a nuance to it that many people will overlook. To feel or experience it is one thing. It's cheapened when it's stated verbally. But perhaps not 100 percent of the time.

I read everyone's response after I wrote what I did above. We're all close to understanding one another it seems.  

[AION]

2 hours ago, Hojo said:

If your toenail said I am 'your name' would you say your toenail is being unhealthy? 

Or would you say you go girl!

But you don't have 1 toenail. 

It is more like your toenails arguing who is God.

"I'm God"

"No I'm God"

"I'm you"

"No, not you, you are me"

 

Just imagine imagine actualized forum members all sitting in a room all saying they are God and what kind of fights would result. It is no coincidence that this forum has experienced so much drama like no other forum where huge groups tried to do a coup on the forum. Battle royale for ego maniacs. 

God by definition is something that doesn't have a shape and as a being with shape and material you ain't it. It is not that difficult. I already put up this argument multiple times and nobody could address it succesfully.

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

There's some big implications and inferences with this statement.

For clarity; you believe in God, and that she/he/it is something outside you, that is an arbitrator of morality or truth?

I don't get what you are trying to say here

Edited 9 hours ago by AION

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@AION The way you phrased the portion I linked made it sound like you do believe in some form of diety ie "God". Which is chill, just not sure where you stand.

[AION]

32 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@AION The way you phrased the portion I linked made it sound like you do believe in some form of diety ie "God". Which is chill, just not sure where you stand.

God is basically the fabric of reality with all POV´s of consciousness, the closest thing science comes to God is the quantum field.

[VeganAwake]

Heavy is the head that wears the crown 👑 

[AION]

16 hours ago, vibv said:

WE are God.

We are One.

You are something for sure

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, AION said:

God is basically the fabric of reality with all POV´s of consciousness, the closest thing science comes to God is the quantum field.

I take it the phrasing 'we are all God' or 'everything is God' isn't drumming up the same egoic connotations as 'I am God'.

So it is the individuals personal ego identifying as 'God' that you argue is unhealthy? 

I am trying to make out the nuance in your view - not argue. I suppose Solipsism would be equally as unhealthy a view (Solipsism, to me, is merely a philosophical concept, not something that can be directly realized at the relative level. Too many thought/conceptual presuppositions).

[AION]

26 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I take it the phrasing 'we are all God' or 'everything is God' isn't drumming up the same egoic connotations as 'I am God'.

So it is the individuals personal ego identifying as 'God' that you argue is unhealthy? 

I am trying to make out the nuance in your view - not argue. I suppose Solipsism would be equally as unhealthy a view (Solipsism, to me, is merely a philosophical concept, not something that can be directly realized at the relative level. Too many thought/conceptual presuppositions).

In Jungian psychology they explain it through the ego-self axis. There's a difference between the part of you that thinks, plans, and says "I"(ego)  and something much vaster underneath all of that. Most spiritual traditions point at that vaster thing when they talk about God or the Absolute. Your ego is like a single candle flame. The divine is the whole room.

A healthy inner life means the candle knows it's a candle. It's in relationship with something larger than itself. But sometimes something goes wrong, the candle looks around and thinks: "I am the room." That's ego inflation, and it's the psychological engine behind "I am God."

The strange paradox is that the more genuinely someone has touched something sacred, the less likely they are to announce it. Real contact with the infinite tends to produce silence and awe, not declarations. The loudest "I am God" statements tend to come from the furthest distance from the actual experience.

Genuine spirituality looks less like ownership and more like reverence. The recognition that you are part of something enormous tends to make you smaller in the best possible way, more humble, more curious, less interested in winning cosmic arguments.

Edited 8 hours ago by AION

[Sincerity]

17 hours ago, AION said:

 

Just imagine a room with people and everybody says they are god. How would they get along? They wouldn't.

There is zero logical incoherency.

There’s two awake people in a room. Awake person 1 says I am God. Awake person 2 nods in approval with a smile. Then, person 2 says I am God. Awake person 1 nods in approval with a smile.

There isn’t necessarily anything egoic about I am God. But it always seems that way from (some of) egos’ perspective.

There’s nothing wrong about saying it too. It’s a beautiful statement of truth.

Obviously, you have to awaken to it to get it.

Edited 8 hours ago by Sincerity

[lesmondesengloutis]

“Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.”
(Exodus 20:7)

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@AION You really do not like to simply state your claim. That's cool. But it can be frustrating when you create threads like this then dance around answering direct questions.

[AION]

Sollipsism makes things a little bit more complicated because it says only "I" exist, but it depends on what you mean with I. There is a difference between I and self. In Jungian psychology there is a big difference between I and the Self. Since self is ego while Self is the totality of being. So it is more accurate to say the Self is God. Not I'm God which is egoistical.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

15 minutes ago, Sincerity said:

Obviously, you have to awaken to it to get it.

I think when one does awaken to it, and makes the statement 'I am God', others who have discovered this truth understand it is not the self, or ego, that makes the statement. Even if, ironically, it is the ego that types it out on a computer screen.