I disagree with the forum

[CARDOZZO]

• The lack of self-oriented results seeking. If you really want to master SD Stage Orange, this place is not for you. It will actually undermine your ambition. 
• Spiritual fantasy, spiritual word salad, wanting to be like Leo, spiritual gaslighting.
• A general dismissive behavior towards sex, sexual energy, money, career, survival needs.

[Jodistrict]

5 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

• The lack of self-oriented results seeking. If you really want to master SD Stage Orange, this place is not for you. It will actually undermine your ambition. 
• Spiritual fantasy, spiritual word salad, wanting to be like Leo, spiritual gaslighting.
• A general dismissive behavior towards sex, sexual energy, money, career, survival needs.

I had a successful career and retired early since I had accumulated enough wealth.  Looking back at it, I would have made more money and been much happier if I had put spirituality first in my life.  When you think about it, it’s a real no brainer.  One mistake from your lower nature can cause serious losses.  But I am talking about a real spiritual path that transforms you and not intellectualization.

[CARDOZZO]

40 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

I had a successful career and retired early since I had accumulated enough wealth.  Looking back at it, I would have made more money and been much happier if I had put spirituality first in my life.  When you think about it, it’s a real no brainer.  One mistake from your lower nature can cause serious losses.  But I am talking about a real spiritual path that transforms you and not intellectualization.

Sure. I'm on that path too. I just agonize to see young people trying to realize God at 25 with no real experience in life, no sex, money, skills, a place to live. 

That's only my perspective.

Edited Sunday at 08:11 PM by CARDOZZO

[Jodistrict]

10 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

Sure. I'm on that path too. I just agonize to see young people trying to realize God at 25 with no real experience in life, no sex, money, skills, a place to live. 

That's only my perspective.

Much of that is just playing with concepts.  That is the intellectualization.  Looking at it from an “orange” perspective, pursuing a career is traveling a bumpy road and spiritual development gives you the shock absorbers. 

[UnbornTao]

The general gullibility and lack of critical faculty, even when professed otherwise.

Insistence on the psychedelic path as a gateway to "expanded consciousness," and the underlying arrogance behind the unwillingness to relinquish such a notion. This ties into the next point:

A tendency to fantasize, as is common in spiritual communities (or people in general, frankly).

Confusing the desire to feel good with having a productive interaction, and mistaking discomfort at hard truths for cruelty or lack of sympathy.

Failing to distinguish between sugar-coated deception that appeals to you and facts that meet resistance.

Any form of pretension, especially the kind veiled under the guise of higher consciousness or spirituality.

Thinking you have understood or transcended the real masters.

Edited 53 minutes ago by UnbornTao

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Weaponizing truth.

[oOo]

On 1/3/2026 at 1:00 AM, oOo said:

I would like to see a purely research focused area of the forum.

My broad dominant research focus is on anti-ageing. I will be spending a lot of time, money and creative capital concerning.

I think adding this area would create a positive feedback loop with the rest of the forum. 

Topics can span any area of research on personal development, with a preference towards peer reviewed research. 

The forum needs to build a healthy relationship with science, striking a balance towards pro-research and experimentation while encouraging oppositional stances towards bureaucratic entropy. 

This approach invariably leads to implicitly teaching meta-rationalism, contributing to the creation of an environment that fosters both creative independence and collaborative intelligence. 

The forum can sometimes be a vacuum for enabling identity issues, reinforcement of identity without proper integration and aimless ego signalling. And this is in part because the environment isn’t fully yet “critical thinking implicit”. By slowly moving towards titles that instead turn the site into an interface that implicitly and indirectly encourages self reflection, wrapped in casual humour, it doesn’t just act as a site that makes a user feel like they’re making progress in their life, it provides them with the direct influences to do that without users, moderators or contributors feeling like they have to make it their job to do so. It’s social momentum with the right reinforcing tags. 

I also recommend a research area within the “Mental Health, Serious Emotional Issues” itself, establishing it as a case study example of how adding something as simple as a research portal where people can access prior shared resources can have a dramatic positive influence on a section of the forums environment; providing the research template is cleverly designed in a way where it feels engaging rather than triggering, helpful and safe over intimidating, progressive rather than feeling like “you’re too cool for school” to checkout the resources.

After the experiment is successful, this simple mechanism can be improved and applied to other and even all areas of the forums environment. 

People get to come onto the forum and pretend to be themselves rather than actually be themselves and move towards their own personal growth. By installing simple mechanisms like a research button, it pre-installs a little more self-awareness, engagement and cooperative behaviour respectful of mutual creative independence.

Great work on getting the site speedy again! Heh, it’s a breeze! 

The forum from an outsiders perspective (a friend of mine) appears circular and non-progressive while appealing to progressive spiritual ideas, which creates distorted overly inflated positive perceptions on anything thats genuinely positive just to keep it’s baseless core alive. 

Conversations do not build on one another and no system is in place to actually capitalise on progress made in communication to contribute to all people that choose to benefit.

Instead all conversation when viewed across time is inputted into total empty space, something that any intelligent person would simply side step rather than invest in any non-eventual meaningful discourse.

This creates a culture where every persons perspective is inflated beyond its value, where comments contributed are purely a dopamine spike and where the return to zero is just at the service of of the sites baseline. This is the problem when site dynamics mirror that of the casual societal dynamics that never move anything heavy in the real world. They never help people they Band-Aid them. They never talk about issues they label them. They never contribute to causes they virtue signal or talk out of their ass and then send an emoji while pointing to the next conversation that may give them another emoji dopamine spike.

This forum has been online for over ten years, has it genuinely helped people or been a complete waste of time? It’s a relevant question. To me, and I struggle to see otherwise, at the heart of it it’s just here to serve the social insecurities of others that don’t spend enough time interacting with the real world. How do I know? Becsuse they come back here and continue to talk about things thst carry no weight and use it as a crutch rather than something that reflects investment into their future and something that may benefit others in their contributions. I see fist bumps, fart comments and at best of any lengthy discussion, ego stroking. That’s fine intermittently, but not as a foundation for a self-actualisation site. It turns the whole forum into a parody of personal development, not a system designed with the interests of all persons contributing.

When you’re turquoise and above (although I don’t follow spiral dynamics), systems should already be a priority following from one’s integration from stage Yellow. A system of self-actualisation needs to be at the heart of why people are sharing on the forum. I want to encourage personal creativity by moderators and Leo in designing their own system, but I am also happy to share my ideas further, perhaps it’s better to contribute to another thread someone creates centered around agreement towards some kind of system change or at least ideas around rather than just circling negating points. 

Otherwise, this discussion will become yet another void, another vacuum, a black hole people orbit with their time only to come out the other end with cheap laughs, zero progress in their lives and lost memories they could have meaningfully injected into real life. Make this discussion into a small step forward for change on the forum is my best recommendation, @Leo Gura don’t let it just be ‘another thread’ or at most brief emotional bumper sticker before the next users hijacked attentional system gets drawn into the next emoji of what has become a wasteland emulating too many qualities of what doesn’t constitute a personal development forum much less one built on a strong systematic foundation to benefit everyone. 

“Casual” as the forum is called, is the topping of the cake but it can’t be called the substance unless the forum is just here to suck up everyone’s time including yours Leo, when in reality it’s just hijacking cognitive biases thst breed the illusion of choice for the illusion of progress. 

A forum is a place of connection at a particular centre, that centre is self actualisation. Let “casualness” be the unifier that softens the edges of people coming from many different backgrounds, not the reason people want to leave once they fished an epiphany to chase genuine meaning in their lives.

Now I need some sleep after only having about 2 hours, plus jet lag plus changing time zones.

Best wishes.

Sincerely, good luck.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@oOo

Do you think spirituality/personal development is done on a forum?

[UnbornTao]

@oOo Do you use AI to write your posts? 

 

[Oppositionless]

The belief that "understanding" ie creating elaborate mental representations of reality is the only right way to value Truth.

Failure to recognize the simplicity of Truth. 
What would happen if you just took a break from philosophy and contemplation for a month?

Edited 17 minutes ago by Oppositionless