Leo's DemystifySci Podcast Appearance

[UnbornTao]

17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Look, dude. You are being so arrogant. You not hearing what I am telling you: there is specific insight which is being missed.

If you think you got Infinity all figured out, you're kidding yourself. There's way more to it than anyone comprehends.

When you say something like "beyond absolute", what are you talking about? You're not hearing what I said. And if we combined our arrogance... Jesus. 

I always forget that you're likely talking about psychedelic states and not enlightenments.

Edited 7 hours ago by UnbornTao

[UnbornTao]

@PolyPeter @Leo Gura 'Lots and lots' is still relative. Notice how the matter is being held essentially in that manner.

Edited yesterday at 04:04 PM by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, UnbornTao said:

When you say beyond absolute, what are you talking about?

I am not talking about beyond absolute. I am talking about deeper insight into Infinity/God. Insight which you could have if you stop acting arrogant.

Edited yesterday at 04:02 PM by Leo Gura

[Terell Kirby]

Just now, UnbornTao said:

I always forget that you're likely talking about psychedelic states and not enlightenments.

Part of recognizing Infinity is collapsing the distinction between psychedelic states and enlightenment.

[Carl-Richard]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's where you are totally wrong. But have it your way.

I'm not disregarding the profoundness of infinity as an insight. I'm saying it's not complex. You add more cases. That's the function. You add more things. More complexity even. More. Ok, we got it now. So expounding on a particular case of adding more ("Gods"), well, that's not entirely interesting imo (again, irrespective of the linguistic issues).

Edited yesterday at 04:05 PM by Carl-Richard

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

I'm saying it's not complex.

And I am saying it is complex.

There are aspects of Infinity which no one here comprehends or imagines.

Edited yesterday at 04:04 PM by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

28 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I found this enlightened master explains it well for you

 

☺️

This is so stupid. Every culture has the notion of God.

Someone should tell him about Teotl, Zeus, Ra, Ahura Mazda, etc.

Edited yesterday at 04:07 PM by Leo Gura

[Cubbage]

@Leo Gura Please consider coming on my podcast: The Trip Sitters. 

I would love to have an open discussion of awakening/God/infinity and psychedelics with you and my audience would also be very enthusiastic for a talk between us since we both are deeply ingrained within the psychonautic online space. Discord members and Vivec followers in general are very serious about the very deepest levels of this work.

I am not the most academically minded person, but I can 100% facilitate a metaphysical and transrational discussion between us. Let me know mate.

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Cubbage said:

@Leo Gura Please consider coming on my podcast: The Trip Sitters. 

I would love to have an open discussion of awakening/God/infinity and psychedelics with you and my audience would also be very enthusiastic for a talk between us since we both are deeply ingrained within the psychonautic online space. Discord members and Vivec followers in general are very serious about the very deepest levels of this work.

I am not the most academically minded person, but I can 100% facilitate a metaphysical and transrational discussion between us. Let me know mate.

Sure, man. We can do that. Contact me via PM for scheduling.

[UnbornTao]

17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I am not talking about beyond absolute. I am talking about deeper insight into Infinity/God. Insight which you could have if you stop acting arrogant.

I'm not sure you're as enlightened as you think, to be clear. You tend to disseminate a particular cosmology. And come on, you are quite arrogant too.

States are great - and are not awakening.

Edited 7 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

@UnbornTao Sigh...

[Cubbage]

@Leo Gura Awesome, I'll be in touch.

[UnbornTao]

17 hours ago, Terell Kirby said:

Part of recognizing Infinity is collapsing the distinction between psychedelic states and enlightenment.

The notion of Infinity is extremely convenient, actually. You can literally say anything about it, and it wouldn't have any significance either way. 

That doesn't mean there's a real breakthrough behind it, though. There likely isn't. More often than not, it sounds like a convincing and powerful conceptual fabrication that is being forced onto some sort of experience. 

Edited 7 hours ago by UnbornTao

[UnbornTao]

17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@UnbornTao Sigh...

Right.

When are you going to set aside your arrogance and actually listen to Adi Da, for example?

Notice how, behind what you "say", there really is a demand for belief, even if implicit, and despite what you claim to the contrary.

Edited 7 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Joseph Maynor]

They named the video War Between Truth and Survival.  Interesting.

[Leo Gura]

I am in contact with the hosts via email and they seem to be open to future conversations. So that is promising.

Edited yesterday at 04:42 PM by Leo Gura

[Sincerity]

46 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

You're in a conceptual web of lies. You can have multiple entities inside infinity already. No need to call them "Gods". It's just fat.

Or, you don’t get it. Infinity of Gods is a precise description of this insight/awakening.

Sorry, but the being lost in concepts is your case. You don’t even admit you are God. So what’s there to talk about.

My awakenings are from complete beginner’s mind, every time. And every time it’s the same thing (insights into Consciousness), but going deeper and deeper and deeper. I go where the truth is after I’m wiped out. It’s not just wherever.

Edited yesterday at 04:23 PM by Sincerity

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Right.

When are you going to set aside your arrogance and actually listen to Adi Da, for example?

Notice how, behind what you "say", there really is a demand for belief, even if implicit, and despite what you claim to the contrary. Not much different from Teal Swan - which is exactly what people love so much about her.

Look, dude, you are deep in the Ralston paradigm and I am way over it. I don't know how else to explain that to you. Ralston is severely limiting your understanding of this domain, great as Ralston is. I am not going to keep arguing with you over it.

Do not distract this thread with Ralston debates. Do that elsewhere.

Edited yesterday at 04:22 PM by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

Move discussions of Infinity to another thread. This thread is about the podcast.

[Sincerity]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Move discussions of Infinity to another thread. This thread is about the podcast.

Sorry.

Looking forward to you talking to @Cubbage, that’ll be good for sure.