Why does Elon Musk sound like Leo all of a sudden?

[Joseph Maynor]

13 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

It's tricky to discern, especially when evaluating how something is expressed. Many people may confuse bluntness or straightforwardness with vanity, but these serve different purposes.

Is claiming truth vanity?

[UnbornTao]

37 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Is claiming truth vanity?

It depends on why you're claiming it, and especially on what you're actually claiming. It seems to me that nobody deliberately claims falsehood, so that's some sort of feedback. Which is to say, we don't like being wrong, and when we recognize that we might be, we quickly adapt so that we're positioned on the "right" side of things again. But I digress. Vanity is about you, and the truth does not care about you. These are totally different motivations. What you think telling the truth is is different from actually knowing and telling the truth, so this is a gap to bridge for oneself.

Edited 2 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

The problem is that the more deluded one is, the more that delusion claims truth.

Claiming truth is a big red flag unless you really know what you're doing. Musk does not know what he's doing in this domain.

Musk is great at selfishly pushing business. Musk is terrible at truth and love.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Xonas Pitfall]

Because people love to say and feeeeeeeeel like they are aligned with the highest values. That’s one of the reasons religion can be appealing to many (among other reasons). Something resembling truth, beauty, love, perfection, or goodness. I must align myself with that. But again, saying you are aligned with something and actually acting upon it are miles apart. Something you learn over and over again through others and through yourself.