Why Has Dating Collapsed? The Real Reason No One Talks About

[Joseph Maynor]

This is a good video that shows how to be playful in conversation IMO.  Nice balance between information and humor.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

My rejection line is 'Hey, I am really flattered. Chops for asking and putting it out there - don't ask, don't get, right? But I am not interested in romantic or sexual relationships at the moment' Or end with 'I have a partner, so to be clear, I am not interested in any sort of sexual relationship' or a variant of the above (if it comes up, I do not just insert it in there randomly). If I pick up on someone's intentions I ask them if I am reading them correctly - then I make my stance clear, if needed.

I leave it at that. If they ask me why I give them honest feedback. 

I dunno I think I am unusual for a woman. I am more candid. I have always approached men and been explicit re my interest and intentions.

[Ramasta9]

17 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

My rejection line is 'Hey, I am really flattered. Chops for asking and putting it out there - don't ask, don't get, right? But I am not interested in romantic or sexual relationships at the moment' Or end with 'I have a partner, so to be clear, I am not interested in any sort of sexual relationship' or a variant of the above (if it comes up, I do not just insert it in there randomly). If I pick up on someone's intentions I ask them if I am reading them correctly - then I make my stance clear, if needed.

I leave it at that. If they ask me why I give them honest feedback. 

I dunno I think I am unusual for a woman. I am more candid. I have always approached men and been explicit re my interest and intentions.

My rejection line without making them feel rejected, is something like: Darling your beautiful, but I'm currently married to myself.

Luckily i am rarely asked such things, nor I have asked, it just sort of plays out naturally and intuitively, when it feels aligned.

It always felt very odd to me to ask someone out or be asked out, school was hella weird for me. 

[Lila9]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

My rejection line is 'Hey, I am really flattered. Chops for asking and putting it out there - don't ask, don't get, right? But I am not interested in romantic or sexual relationships at the moment' Or end with 'I have a partner, so to be clear, I am not interested in any sort of sexual relationship' or a variant of the above (if it comes up, I do not just insert it in there randomly). If I pick up on someone's intentions I ask them if I am reading them correctly - then I make my stance clear, if needed.

I leave it at that. If they ask me why I give them honest feedback. 

I dunno I think I am unusual for a woman. I am more candid. I have always approached men and been explicit re my interest and intentions.

That’s really kind of you. I wish I had the patience to be so kind. Due to so much trauma from men, I don’t have the emotional energy to explain myself to a stranger. I just say that I’m a lesbian to brush them off. Funnily enough, they believe me. This is not very honest, but it’s amusing.

Sometimes I say that I’m married, but it doesn’t always work. They judge me for being too prudish and for not cheating on my fictional husband with them lol.

 

[theleelajoker]

5 hours ago, Infinite Tsukuyomi said:

I have a question for the guys here then.

How many of you are comfortable with other guys coming up to you to shoot their shot? 

How are you turning them down?

I would say that rejection etiquette is almost non-existent in modern self help. 1000s of videos and techniques on approaching but I never see "the art of rejecting others". The more an predictable and standardized rejection becomes, I surmise that more people of all walks would approach. .

 

 

I'm very comfortable with it if done respectfully. Happened last time 2 week ago.  A guy told me that he finds me cute and that he wasn't sure if it's too much telling me this or not, and that he hopes I don't take it in a bad way.

I told him that he shouldn't worry about that, that I liked that he had the balls to tell me, that I'm flattered but that I am into women only.  He said ok thanks for the nice feedback and that was the end of the story.

My point: a nice approach is easy to reject in a nice way. I had gay guys repeatly touching me on the dance floor after I told them no several times and I was literally close to punching them. Other people felt started looking and almost intervening, that is how tense it became. Input determines output.

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[oOo]

10 hours ago, oOo said:

 

Eileen Gu.

What an inspiration she is for women.
 

 

 

• She journals constantly 
• She breaks down her thought patterns
• She studies her own mind like she studies her own freestyle skiing

 

This is the kind of woman you want to wife up. 

Many guys struggle on this forum with motivation, thinking they lack this and that, when in reality you are just positively reinforcing patterns that do not serve you. Do the opposite, watch change occur. Thats my own approach. Guys are caught up in mainstream dogma and because of it they’ve been completely blindsided as to what discipline is about. “Discipline” is literally to the word “Disciple”, and the core meaning being you simply become a discipline of your own patterns. Study, re-write, execute your own prophecy, return to the end of the night back to nothingness so you can objectively analyse and not get caught up in your own swagger to make a slight iteration that brings you slightly closer to your potential on what you’re working on. Rinse and repeat over and over and Eileen will become a woman you will naturally attract in real life. 

Excellent example she sets for modern women, where most need better healthy guidance.

 

I stand… Uncorrected.

- ChatGPT’s list below of worlds most self-aware women (granted after sharing it asked me if I wanted to narrow down outside of mainstream culture i.e. academia).

(Dating collapse due to degrading standards for self awareness across both men and women)

Okay… before we get into confirmation of my theory… now just brace yourself for a moment. Take a deep breath. 

Now I want you to just take a moment to wonder honestly within yourself about the most self aware women you can think of in the world.

Got it?

Fantastic.

Now sink into that search until you can come up with ten women.

I have mine, however most are literally just my friends. Neurosurgeon (newly), psychologist, studying medicine, engineer, and… I’ll leave it there.

Have a guess what ChatGPT came up with!

Ha, now here comes GPT’s list of “THE MOST SELF AWARE WOMEN IN THE WORLD UNDER 50!”

This… is utterly embarrassing for mainstream western culture I mean surely you can see the PSYOP by now right? OKAY here we go, fuck what a smoke screen mainstream culture really is, shit that zombie 🧟‍♂️ 🧟‍♀️ ache of folk has really got the Eeeek/X factor.

I’ll preface this by saying I don’t know enough about some (Zendaya, Malala Yousafzai, Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez - tho I have listened to Cortez once or twice) of the women. 

Irrespectively, Eileen Gu (read previous post) is a FAR better role model than any of these women below. 

Three of the women on the list arguably have narcissistic personality disorder thats the the hilarity of it. I won’t say who as an exercise of discretion.

Before I share the list, here is one more popular name of a woman that others are likely less familiar with but will remember her from the big bang theory. Personally, I actually think Ms. Gu may actually be more self-aware in specific areas, that said from Mayim Bialik, yes it’s her, offers many lessons and this is the final lesson I’ll share with the reader for now. Is that you should not even be focusing on learning specific lessons from any one individual person in general, instead you should be looking at them from the meta level and asking yourself, where are their strengths and weaknesses in self-awareness and how can I convert those patterns into useable data to help my own self-awareness advance down its natural course?” Thats it. Okay let’s get to the list, afterwards, I will share Mayim’s YouTube channel at the bottom. Have an open mind in applying the meta question I posed.
 

GPT’s List:

1. Taylor Swift

 (b. 1989) Exceptionally meta about narrative identity, public persona construction, and autobiographical authorship.

2. Emma Watson

 (b. 1990) High linguistic precision about gender identity, fame psychology, and social role internalization.

3. Greta Thunberg (b. 2003)

Strong moral clarity; minimal ego-diffusion; consistent value alignment under pressure.

4. Lady Gaga (b. 1986)

Explicit meta-commentary on persona construction, trauma integration, and identity fragmentation.

5. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez  (b. 1989)

High rhetorical awareness; strategic framing consciousness; public cognitive transparency.

6. Zendaya (b. 1996) 

Unusually mature self-positioning in fame context; controlled narrative boundaries.

7. Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie  (b. 1977) Advanced meta-cultural cognition; layered identity analysis; high epistemic humility.

8. Ariana Grande (b. 1993) Open about trauma, grief integration, and identity shifts across career phases.

9. Malala Yousafzai (b. 1997)

Consistent reflective articulation of purpose, fear, and personal growth.

10. Billie Eilish

 (b. 2001)

 

 

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