Why Has Dating Collapsed? The Real Reason No One Talks About

[Miguel1]

Usually, when discussing why dating is so bad nowadays, we have a tendency as a culture to point the fingers at men. And promote the vibe that females are innocent.

But this woman, Kait Willett, brings our brilliantly the other side of the eqution: what issues women bring to the underline problem.

I greatly enjoyed how unbiased she was in this assesment, and she explained ideas that I have not heard before and clarified concepts that I have.

Well worth it. Let me know if you relate and how this makes sense to you.

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Miguel1

[Kid A]

37 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Usually, when discussing why dating is so bad nowadays, we have a tendency as a culture to point the fingers at men. And promote the vibe that females are innocent.

Completely contrary to my experience.

This is a very long video and the comment section is a big red flag to me. So much victimhood… Would you mind giving a summary?

[CARDOZZO]

You have courage. Anytime I create a thread on the dating/spirituality/self-actualization sections, I invite unnecessary drama into my life. It is insane.

I would rather rule on the science section 😈

[Miguel1]

I am enjoying the surprisingly high integrity of this woman.

How to find and screen for the very few high quality partner that is still left:

Part 1

Part 2

 

[Miguel1]

37 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

You have courage. Anytime I create a thread on the dating/spirituality/self-actualization sections, I invite unnecessary drama into my life. It is insane.

I would rather rule on the science section 😈

That's why you create the thread to provide value in the opener to the community and trigger conversation, and then..

Disappear! 

[Miguel1]

@Kid A Apply Leo's insight:

Skip the first 20% of the video, watch in 1.5X speed and if you find it valuable, you can go back and watch it from the start.

Give it a chance, I don't share just anything here.

[CARDOZZO]

32 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

That's why you create the thread to provide value in the opener to the community and trigger conversation, and then..

Disappear! 

BOOM!  

These last 2 videos, damn.. This will be a 600 pages thread for sure.

[Ulax]

@Miguel1 What are your views on modern dating? I'd be interested to hear.

[Elliott]

Actualized is toast. You guys should just pin the ladyboy thread for dating advice.

 

[Ulax]

1 minute ago, Elliott said:

Actualized is toast. You guys should just pin the ladyboy thread for dating advice.

 

I get you disliked the post. What specifically do you take you issue with?

If its because the post is talking around making generalised claims about women, then I can understand where you're coming from. But every culture/ society has a somewhat unique socialisation process that lends itself to specific demographics, i.e. women, developing general characteristics/ traits at a specific time.

Edited 13 hours ago by Ulax

[Miguel1]

2 hours ago, Ulax said:

@Miguel1 What are your views on modern dating? I'd be interested to hear.

I'm not the best to answer this as I don't find much joy to engage in dating anymore. You can call it outgrowing it.

But from the little I do do dating, it is an unconscious cesspool. I truly understand now what Leo means when he said some year ago that "most people are too immature to build proper healthy relationships". I totally understand that now. I also understand how bad and unconscious my behavior was in my peak game years. I was a complete devil, and I was downplaying it for years afterwards. Only in the past 1-2 years have I truly understood how toxic and manipulative I have been. It is extremely hard to have ton of sex with new girls as a normie, if you deeply care about truth and are committed to behave accordingly.

Nowadays I try as much as possible to find more mature and more classy women with good values, so I niche down hard. I mostly spend time in places where these people hang out. I avoid clubs and dating apps like I’m allergic to them. I have been spending more time in fine bars, rather than loud obnoxious clubs.

Unfortunately it is freezing cold winter here at the moment so that discourages me to cold approach even more. When the warmer seasons arrive, I will approach girls more in parks, hiking, outdoor places and events. It makes sense that the more quality girls dont enjoy time in loud obnoxious clubs nearly as much as more immature girls.

Did this give you an idea? I am not sure what specifically you want to know and so I am not sure if I answered your question at all.

I guess in a nutshell: as I keep growing exponentially away from the gravitational pull of society, and the dating world seems to be getting more unconscious, finding a proper high quality partner becomes a much harder quest. Less and less worth the hassle.

Thank you for the question tho. Always nice to get an opportunity to articulate my thoughts.

Edited 10 hours ago by Miguel1

[Elliott]

2 hours ago, Ulax said:

I get you disliked the post. What specifically do you take you issue with?

If its because the post is talking around making generalised claims about women, then I can understand where you're coming from. But every culture/ society has a somewhat unique socialisation process that lends itself to specific demographics, i.e. women, developing general characteristics/ traits at a specific time.

I think the vast majority of this forum is made up of men, I think women are a minority on here, and I don't think the women that miguel, zazen, aion,.... keep referring to are on this forum, yet they keep reposting the same thread complaining about the 'problem women'. What productive discussion could possibly come from any of these threads?

[Miguel1]

2 hours ago, Elliott said:

Actualized is toast. You guys should just pin the ladyboy thread for dating advice.

If you want to constructively criticize, at least provide proper arguments.

I provided proper information spreading awareness and legit practical tips, and you had nothing to say about anything.

[Miguel1]

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

yet they keep reposting the same thread complaining about the 'problem women'. What productive discussion could possibly come from any of these threads?

Where the hell you got complaining from? I am just providing consciousness to the situation, which is the foundation of our work here. Becoming more conscious of what is.

[Elliott]

3 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Where the hell you got complaining from? I am just providing consciousness to the situation, which is the foundation of our work here. Becoming more conscious of what is.

You are far past gone, bud. Get off the internet.

[Ulax]

1 minute ago, Elliott said:

I think the vast majority of this forum is made up of men, I think women are a minority on here, and I don't think the women that miguel, zazen, aion,.... keep referring to are on this forum, yet they keep reposting the same thread complaining about the 'problem women'. What productive discussion could possibly come from any of these threads?

I get the scepticism. A fair amount of gender specific analysis online, and in history is driven by emotional and hateful biases. I have scepticism when I see posts on this topic too.

For me though, as long as its in good faith, I just see it as a cultural analysis of a societal demographic. The type of men and women a society creates is an important subject, and I see this post as just addressing some negative issues with the type of adult women that western societies tend to produce.

 

[Ulax]

1 minute ago, Elliott said:

You are far past gone, bud. Get off the internet.

Bro come on you are jumping to very negative conclusions about Miguel's intentions. That isn't fair.

[Elliott]

1 minute ago, Ulax said:

Bro come on you are jumping to very negative conclusions about Miguel's intentions. That isn't fair.

"93% of women are undatable" ?

[Ulax]

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

"93% of women are undatable" ?

To be fair to you, i missed that at first. That does strike me as something that could reasonably be expected to be a misogynistic video.

I will try to watch the videos and see the video's intentions.

Edited 11 hours ago by Ulax

[Elliott]

18 minutes ago, Ulax said:

I get the scepticism. A fair amount of gender specific analysis online, and in history is driven by emotional and hateful biases. I have scepticism when I see posts on this topic too.

For me though, as long as its in good faith, I just see it as a cultural analysis of a societal demographic. The type of men and women a society creates is an important subject, and I see this post as just addressing some negative issues with the type of adult women that western societies tend to produce.

 

There is plenty of improvement for all women, some women outright suck. I disagree that something new has created this toxicity, but of course it's healthy to talk about toxicity that comes from women, by all means. That's not what disgusts me at all.

I made my comment, there was no need for either of you to engage me, let me leave the thread and you guys dig right in! Nothing productive will come from engaging me on this, I won't interject again.

Edited 10 hours ago by Elliott