Humanity will soon become superhuman, thoughts?

[LordFall]

The future is really gonna be interesting. Soon enough transhumanism will take off like never before. With technology like Neuralink that will raise our IQ to 200+ as well as biotech that will let us improve our bodies and become biologically immortal. This understandably freaks a lot of people out but as someone obsessed with self-development which is already basically self-transcendence, this is incredibly exciting to me. 

There is the dystopian version where the rich people use AI to oppress the rest of the populace but I don't see that happening. In game theory, it makes much more sense to facilitate a transition towards post scarcity and give everyone AI UBI than try to wage an eternal war on humanity. 

I can't imagine being able to compute faster than I currently can. Already taking psychedelics the information overloard is incredibly, perhaps with a Neuralink-esque device in our brain's we'll be able to interact with the infinite infinitely more. 

[Hojo]

Why don't see the dystopia happening? Why do you see the more insane thing happening vs the easier option?

[LordFall]

Economics. A dystopia is not very efficient and will be too expensive in energy so the path of least resistance will be world peace. 

Why do you think dystopia is so easy? 

 

[Basman]

They should make AI and tech hype against the rules here.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

15 minutes ago, Basman said:

They should make AI and tech hype against the rules here.

I wish! 

Transhumanism is garbage

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Humans trying to become God is not a good thing imo, it simply cannot end up good. I've been pondering about some of your ideas for some time and was wondering if I can adopt them but ultimately find this trajectory wrong and degenerate and nothing good can come out of this. But that's my opinion, you'd probably call this being close minded and scared

It's not a coincedence that none of these tech billionaire inovators ever seem to care about morality and ethics of all of this, as well as potential negative consequences for the human race, that's cause they don't believe in any morality or ethics and they don't care about negative consequences, they are simply accelerationists. They only serve their deranged visions

Edited 6 hours ago by NewKidOnTheBlock

[UnbornTao]

We want a pill that could finally solve our personal and societal struggles, don't we?

It's more snake oil than reality, in my view. 

[LordFall]

5 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I wish! 

Transhumanism is garbage

How so?

The whole history of humanity is based on transhumanism. Just us communicating right now over thousands of miles is pretty damn close to telepathy. Watch the radical open mindedness video again. For people supposed to push the boundaries of what's possible for humans intellectually, spiritually and otherwise you guys are very close minded. 

4 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Humans trying to become God is not a good thing imo, it simply cannot end up good. I've been pondering about some of your ideas for some time and was wondering if I can adopt them but ultimately find this trajectory wrong and degenerate and nothing good can come out of this. But that's my opinion, you'd probably call this being close minded and scared

It's not a coincedence that none of these tech billionaire inovators ever seem to care about morality and ethics of all of this, as well as potential negative consequences for the human race, that's cause they don't believe in any morality or ethics and they don't care about negative consequences, they are simply accelerationists. They only serve their deranged visions

Plenty of billionaires and innovators care about the ethics of this. You're indeed being scared and close minded but we can talk about it if you'd like. You're using a sweeping generalization and fear mongering. 

Bill Gates for example is one of the biggest example of a tech buy being fearmongered. He spent his life after making billions working to eradicate disease globally. 

I don't know what exactly you mean by becoming God. You are already God in human form. Humans have been fighting to be able to live in this cruel physical world since the dawn of time. You can stay that our story has been about fighting against death and forced labor. That's finally about to change. 

I understand it's hard to wrap your mind around but it's not really that radical. Please put forth logical arguments and not emotional ones and I'll walk you guys through them. If your arguments are emotional I don't have much to say apart from rejoice and believe, the greatest timeline is getting built.

If you had faith and truly believed in God and truth why would you have so much doubt about human technology reaching it's full potential?

What does all the technology ever built by humanity except ameliorate our life and our ability to communicate with eachother? 

[Sandroew]

We could already create an utopian world on earth for everyone with our current technology. The industrial revolution increased our production capability thousandfolds. Did that change anything for the ordinary folks? No ? Thats because the ruling worldview didnt change with it. Thats the tragedy of todays politics that virtually nobody even acknowledges this today. Im not going into examples on that because i already gave a piece of my mind on it at another one of your topics. Nor will i go into discussing communism because thats not what the topic here, i just wanted to mention it because it was an attempt on changing the social order.

6 hours ago, Basman said:

They should make AI and tech hype against the rules here.

I regularly see this kind of comments pop up on the forum. We are here to discuss and learn from each other.

On 2026. 01. 17. at 9:55 PM, LordFall said:

biotech that will let us improve our bodies and become biologically immortal.

You mean that as in virtually immortal i assume. Because a finite form will never be immortal.

On 2026. 01. 17. at 9:55 PM, LordFall said:

a Neuralink-esque device in our brain's we'll be able to interact with the infinite infinitely more. 

I'll never put a chip into my brain.  But i saw a video about someone playing chess by just looking at the board. Pretty cool.

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[LordFall]

18 minutes ago, Sandroew said:

We could already create an utopian world on earth for everyone with our current technology. The industrial revolution increased our production capability thousandfolds. Did that change anything for the ordinary folks? No ? Thats because the ruling worldview didnt change with it. Thats the tragedy of todays politics that virtually nobody even acknowledges this today

You're misunderstanding the evolution of sovereignty as a technology. The industrial revolution did not bring with it the sovereignty of the individual.

The scale of what an individual can accomplish is of course increased by machinery but that cannot lead to his liberation. That is only achieved with the 3rd and 4th industrial revolution with giving one person the ability to access global markets seamlessly through a cheap device on the internet. 

As we see here as we are all assembled through the work of one single individual Leo Gura, which would not have been possible virtually until recently and thus such a gathering of minds would've been limited to local gatherings.

The 4th industrial revolution brings with it the access to mass labor at cheap prices to any individual. The ramifications of what are incredibly exciting to think about. Basically all the fucking complaining socialists will now themselves have access to 1000 employees at any time so if it's so easy to create a big enterprise and make money you'll be able to do it. 

And blockchain will allow us to create powerful collaboration frameworks under which cooperation will be heavily favoured over competition. 

[Sandroew]

What i meant with the industrial revolution example, is that technological advancement doesnt mean anything if it doesnt transfer into human well-being. The bottleneck today is not technology.

But i understand that was not the point of your topic, i just thought its something useful to point out.

[LordFall]

@Sandroew You're right but the bottleneck is precisely technology. You need technology to unite the world to world peace. 

Computing, internet, AI and blockchain are technologies that I believe will be crucial to improving the standards of living of the global population just as many technologies in the past have improve western standards of living and also global ones. 

[Sandroew]

My point is precisely that they are not necessary to better human well-being. Humanity focuses on technological advancement to a level of autism, while ignoring everything else.

That doesnt mean im against technology though. An improvement is an improvement. But then another thing about that, you have to be careful of the pitfalls of it. Is 6 hours phone time a day healthy ? And they are engineering it on purpose to be as addictive as possible. Because it makes money. Thanks Obama!

Edited 24 minutes ago by Sandroew

[Rigel]

We’ll keep rolling around in the mud for while!

[Sandroew]

Again, im not saying that technology is bad, we came a long way from throwing stones and all that. It is necessary in that sense. And there will be revolutionary stuff like the internet was for our time.

But its not what we desperately need today as first our first priority.

Edit:

I see we are in a disagreement on the importance of technology in solving our problems today. I shall come back with examples next time what i think is more important to focus on. My comment before didnt say anything actual about that.

Edited 10 minutes ago by Sandroew