P. Ralston on unnecessary suffering - avoidance?

[CARDOZZO]

38 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I get upset by your advices like empty your cup and that because seems that you are placing in a superior position, like you are Budda telling easy obvious slogans of non duality, but of course, I shouldn't because that makes me automatically an idiot

I know that of empty the cup, knowing nothing etc, I meditate a lot and I know perfectly the non dualistic teach and I tried a lot to practice them, as anyone who is serious in spirituality, then I realized their fundamental mistake that is the separation of the observer and the reality, I'm pointing that, and you haven't understood 

I'm sorry if I sound like a enlightened asshole. This was not my intention. 

I just want you to get my point. You can analyze your mind for years but if you don't get an insight/direct experience of what it is (invention), you will get stuck forever into a maze.

[Breakingthewall]

15 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

Self-generated pain. 

I break my leg, it hurts. No suffering.

I wake up, I wished reality was different, I feel worse. Suffering.

If your broken leg hurts that produces suffering. Suffering means that you deeply want that things are different, and if your leg hurts enough you will wish very hardly that things are different . If you have chronic pain, it's a source of real suffering. 

The point there is that you are differentiating between the self and reality. The thing is that the self is reality. It is not an illusion that can be transcended; it is an energetic pattern that can be aligned.

The self is a hyper-complex set of energetic patterns built over eons of evolution that has a coherent and real existence. The suffering of the self is no different from the suffering of the body in essence. Both are self-preservation mechanisms that compel actions to avoid destruction or optimize survival.

[Breakingthewall]

12 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

You can analyze your mind for years but if you don't get an insight/direct experience of what it is (invention), you will get stuck forever into a maze.

The mind is not an invention, it's the reality in a form. It's as real as a rock or as the body, it's a stable cloud of energetic process created by eons of evolution that lives. That idea of the non dualistic teacher is simplifying what's not simple to feel safe. I know well what deep mental suffering is and I know well how to finish it absolutely and sustained for years 

[theleelajoker]

25 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

If your broken leg hurts that produces suffering. Suffering means that you deeply want that things are different, and if your leg hurts enough you will wish very hardly that things are different . If you have chronic pain, it's a source of real suffering. 

The point there is that you are differentiating between the self and reality. The thing is that the self is reality. It is not an illusion that can be transcended; it is an energetic pattern that can be aligned.

The self is a hyper-complex set of energetic patterns built over eons of evolution that has a coherent and real existence. The suffering of the self is no different from the suffering of the body in essence. Both are self-preservation mechanisms that compel actions to avoid destruction or optimize survival.

You asked for my definition. I gave one.

You have a different definition.

Whatever works for you, works for you.

Maybe different things work for others. 

Infinite possibilities ♾️ 

 

[CARDOZZO]

44 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The mind is not an invention, it's the reality in a form. It's as real as a rock or as the body, it's a stable cloud of energetic process created by eons of evolution that lives. That idea of the non dualistic teacher is simplifying what's not simple to feel safe. I know well what deep mental suffering is and I know well how to finish it absolutely and sustained for years 

So teach your practices and knowledge.