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How to practice approaching women?

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@CARDOZZO

48 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

That is the problem. You think girls will logically analyze your whole approach.

What you imagine is just what you imagine.

Emotional states are the gods of a woman.

Do not believe, test for yourself. 

Woman love adventure, boldness, courage. If she says no, say to yourself "Who have the balls to do that?".

Ok, so I'll tell you what - I promise I'll try out this kind of adventurous move maybe after I get a little more experience 😅

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55 minutes ago, Zenterus said:

The opener absolutely matters and it becomes clear in the extremes. If you approach a woman saying "hey I want to fuck you"

It matters that you don't say something insulting or creepy.

Other than that, what matter is your vibe. Of you open like a stinky creeper then that matters a lot.

My wings and I give each other stupid openers to say, like "I want to squeeze you", "I like the smell of my own farts".

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16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

My wings and I give each other stupid openers to say, like "I want to squeeze you", "I like the smell of my own farts".

@Leo GuraI respect that, although I found that these types of openers rarely result in a normal solid interaction. But then again, everyone has their own style and strengths, so yours may be to make these types of openers work, while that may be my weakness, who knows.

Do you still go out though? You say "my wings and I give each other.." in the present tense.

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1 hour ago, fopylo said:

@Schizophonia

Had to make sure you add in the humble quality 😉.

Yes, I can relate, and at some point it really confused me but you gotta know what attracts the feminine bro.

There can be intensity in the cold approach. Intensity = intensely attracted to her sexually.

Don't know how it was for you, but personally when girls used to approach me in social situations I just didn't know what to do, and the anxiety and nervousness was probably sensed and then I used to feel like my value all of a sudden went down. That's why it's important for me to go on this journey now and practice the approaching and being good with women. I want to be smooth when they come at me with something, want to be confident speaking to them, all in all get better with them so that even if a girl does approach me in some social situation then I could be good at it. But of course I don't want to rely on that because in the cold approach domain it is me who'll have to do the first scary step, and also the step that will require me to become a better man.

It's just about having fun.

It's like a video game console; you don't simp your video game console, you're not mean to it either, you just pick up the console and play; that's how I see it.

The challenge is to find a girl who enjoys playing the same game as you; what you consider enjoyable may be cool for some and disgusting for others.

In terms of humor, how you like to be interested in others, the activities you like to do, and your general behavior; mainly.

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There's a correlation between physical appearance and mentality.

The easiest interaction I've ever had was a mistake; it was a woman on the train, and she physically resembled me; even in the way to dress actually.

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37 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

There's a correlation between physical appearance and mentality.

The easiest interaction I've ever had was a mistake; it was a woman on the train, and she physically resembled me; even in the way to dress actually.

yeah it's very good bumping into your lookalike in female version. why you didn't succeeded with that woman on the train.

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On 24/12/2025 at 11:10 PM, Inliytened1 said:

If youre at a bar for some reasons girls dont like you to be alone.  If you have someone with u I guess to them it tells them you aren't a total loser. But that's all a wingman is good for.  They won't get the girl for you.

You're spitting textbook shit give it to him raw.

Wingman is v helpful to stop you tilting, and to help you not give up. Also, can make it more fun and a sense of joint adventure.


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One of my most favourite openers is not saying anything. Let my body language and vibe do the opening.

I love it cuz its just so something the girl has never seen.

But this works only in specific situations.


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I do physical openers a lot. I spent months just doing physical game.

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18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I do physical openers a lot. I spent months just doing physical game.

I guess in loud night clubs? Everywhere else that would be inappropriate. 

How does it look like? How do you improve at it?

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41 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

One of my most favourite openers is not saying anything. Let my body language and vibe do the opening.

I love it cuz its just so something the girl has never seen.

But this works only in specific situations.

I get the feeling you are a natural. 

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52 minutes ago, Jannes said:

I get the feeling you are a natural. 

Very possible. My personality type is the most ideal for socializing, very charismatic naturally.

I recently went out with a long time lurker here on the forum. He said his mind was completely blown from observing me. He wrote a field report dedicated to me, we are just waiting for Leo to accept his registration request, so he can post it here.

We will see then if the report indicates stuff about my naturalness. I am curious to see. It is very different having someone observe me from afar, especially a more newbie vs me trying to observe myself. So many things I’ve taken for granted, and has become completely secone nature.

I have been in the game community from early 2010s, but mostly just watched infields and that was basically all my studies. No theories. I didnt even know there was such a thing as keeping count on the number of your approaches. I think I was at around 10k approaches before I even heard of it.


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25 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

I think I was at around 10k approaches before I even heard of it.

Holy shit thats a lot. Well with this much practice you can just seem like a natural. Ofc you could also be one.

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3 hours ago, Jannes said:

I guess in loud night clubs?

Mostly. Or crowded bars.

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Everywhere else that would be inappropriate.

You'd be surprised.

I knew a guy who would grab any girl, any place, any time. Just shameless. He would grab your mother at Walmart.

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How does it look like? How do you improve at it?

Lots of various ways:

  • Walk up, facing her directly, and just take her hands in yours.
  • As she walks past you, grip her by the forearm and pull her towards you
  • Hand of God opener
  • Tap on her shoulder
  • Reach both arms out towards her and signal her to grab them
  • Convert a handshake into a low dance
  • Walk up and hug her from the front
  • Motion at her with your hands, come hither.

You improve at it by forcing yourself to only do physical openers for a month. No talking.

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3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Mostly

You'd be surprised.

Lots of various ways:

  • Walk up, facing her directly, and just take her hands in yours.
  • As she walks past you, grip her by the forearm and pull her towards you
  • Hand of God opener
  • Tap in her shoulder
  • Reach both arms out towards her and signal her to grab them
  • Convert a handshake into a low dance
  • Walk up and hug her from the front
  • Just walk up and take her hands in yours

Ah okay, I couldnt picture much beyond groping in my head. This makes more sense. 

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Mostly. Or crowded bars.

You'd be surprised.

I knew a guy who would grab any girl, any place, any time. Just shameless. He would grab your mother at Walmart.

Lots of various ways:

  • Walk up, facing her directly, and just take her hands in yours.
  • As she walks past you, grip her by the forearm and pull her towards you
  • Hand of God opener
  • Tap on her shoulder
  • Reach both arms out towards her and signal her to grab them
  • Convert a handshake into a low dance
  • Walk up and hug her from the front
  • Motion at her with your hands, come hither.

You improve at it by forcing yourself to only do physical openers for a month. No talking.

Where is my Claw guys??? Iykyk

 

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Ok I'll just pour it here before responding to other comments here. An update of today:

So today in the late morning I decided to join 2 guys for a little excursion to a beach but basically just walking around for a bit and seeing some monkeys. I don't know if it was a mistake to go or not, because this one guy I was more friends with his problem is that he is ADHD and super extroverted just won't shut the fuck up talking about himself. So fricking draining, but for some reason I thought it might be a good idea and "always be open to offers because you don't know where they'll take you". So there this super high energy dude that I just couldn't match his energy, and the other guy we barely spoke. There were times when I was kinda left behind and then I was thinking about whether I should just do an approaching set. So here are some insights:

  • Not to go with a group of extroverted people when intending to approach. The energy is just too much for me, and this in fact drains me and I just become like a follower dragging along them, and this brings down the mood for me to then do approaching. I must either do it alone, or with a buddy that has a vibe match like me.
  • Manage mood - just brushing off the previous point. When feeling drained I don't feel the energy and general good feeling to even go and approach. Not saying I need to be super duper excited, but I just felt that this wasn't such a great experience. Maybe I should start fresh and do something to get myself in a good mood before doing a set and along the way something idk.

So all in all I would say I did only 1 approach, for now at least. It's night right now, and I decided to relax and I might go and do a workout. There's a chance I might meet a 30 year old Thai from tinder that's about the "long term, open to short term" (she changed it just today from "wants to make new friends"). I'm not that into her to be honest but I kinda offered her to workout with me if she wants, but I might just ghost already idk, or at least inform her that I want to chill.

Back to the approach. So I was at the beach after the guys kinda left me behind and I was slightly triggered but didn't let it stop me. I went to chill a bit in the sea, and then I saw this nice looking Indian mom trying to take selfies with the ocean. I then walked to her and offered if she wants me to take a photo of her. She said no and it's ok, but I just had to do something simple just to warm up a bit from this draining social experience with these guys I just had.

Approach 1 - shortly after, I saw this Indian woman (I believe 40-50) walking and as she was starting to pass me I remember this moment - I just got out of my logical head and acted before I could start thinking and this is when I had no choice really but to flow with it. I asked her if she got her dress from Thailand because it's really nice. She told me that her mom (or grandma) made it for her. I then said it looks nice. She kinda nodded with a small smile and that's all it. Again, maybe my delivery isn't perfect, but I also might have some higher expectations of the response from the other person. I expect it to be more smiling, maybe a little laugh, maybe saying "oh, thank you! ☺️" - this is what I aim for but it doesn't happen that much.

I'd like to mention another realization:

  • It's very rare to just find a woman (especially a pretty one) just walking alone in a place with many people. Sometimes when I tried to find someone to approach they were usually with other girl friends, other guy friends, with her boyfriend (most cases here), or she is just fat/ugly and it's not worth approaching because I don't have something genuinely good to say. This is not an offensive statement. Many things which make a woman unattractive she can change. Sometimes she will not be a 10, but I believe every woman has the potential to be a 7 - good enough for most guys do drool over.

 

Just a few words about that extroverted dude:

So when I saw him at the hostel he was chilling outside with the other guy just talking to the two girls, and as he told me hello in excitement then the other two said hello as well. Then later there was this pretty woman that went to chill outside and the dude was just like "heyyyy, where do you come from? 😆" Just a confident extroverted dude. This dude, as much as I hated his constant talking about himself has some interesting stories to say. He said he has had already like 5 short term girlfriends in the span of 2 months. This dude is drugged the fuck up - doing so many things, he has some problems with the police back in England and owes 2,000,000 pound in debt and lost his phone and other problems, yet good experiences with locals. Basically a crazy dude. I am not like him, but it seems that his extroversion is really helping him though. But he was constantly drinking beer throughout the day and also now at night and smoking. So was the other guy, but he is less crazy.

For the record, I haven't taken anything. I want to game sober.

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@CARDOZZO

18 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

 

 

Ok interesting videos. I like how they talk about the importance of it. Maybe I'll make it my goal to get an instant date after getting over the fear of approaching and having some conversation. They both seem like they know what they're doing but at first I got some weird vibes from the second video if it's staged. Later on it seemed pretty real, but like he's approach was so weird that it would be hard for me to imagine it working. Maybe it's just my fear speaking.

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1 hour ago, fopylo said:

owes 2,000,000 pound in debt

was she ordered by court to pay that amount?

 

else no way in Hell she'd be moving around with such ease. talk owing to a bank, or an individual, or a gang.

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