Truth

[James123]

İf you are trying to be right, you are wrong.

İf you think you find the Truth, you didn't.

İf you try to accomplish something, you will suffer your entire life.

İf you believe something, that's wrong.

İf you think gaining/achieving bringing happiness or Truth that's completely opposite.

The path is losing anything and everything.

İncluding these sentences.

[Ramasta9]

The Individual absorbs knowledge, but Truth absorbs the individual.

[Joseph Maynor]

7 hours ago, James123 said:

The path is losing anything and everything.

Who or what is losing anything and everything?

[Arthogaan]

 

 

[Joseph Maynor]

@Mellowmarsh  Hey.  I'm curious about how you feel about the mentality of "there is no . . . .(blah blah blah)".  

[Leo Gura]

Terrible

[Natasha Tori Maru]

With James, it always appears to be trying to point out what others are doing that is 'wrong' 🫤

[Ishanga]

51 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

With James, it always appears to be trying to point out what others are doing that is 'wrong' 🫤

This comes from an Ego that says I'm absolutely right, everyone else is absolutely wrong..with James123 I sense he has a true desire to help others, share wisdom and such which is fine..but he doesn't listen to others well, the ego identification with his ideology is strong so he can't listen as that would threaten his ego and that hurts..plus there is a difference btwn someone truly wanting to share wisdom and someone trying to convince others, James123 is trying to convince others the trueness of his ideology, which is an act of Ego imo..

Now we all fall into this trap just some more strongly than others.. My solution to this is too recognize that all Potentials have to be expressed sooner or later, there are many ppl in the world that are complete materialist, everything is about the material/physical, nothing exist before birth or after death, then there are ppl like all of Us, we know there is more, and are trying to figure it out and live in that space and then there is everything in between, so this is the reality, when I view ppl that state differing opinions I view thru that filter, it lessens my triggers and makes life go on more smoothly I think:) What pisses me off is when ppl attack You for it, or only see You thru a very specific lens.. Ppl think I am obsessed with Sadhguru, I was for sure but this is on purpose, he is very profound in his wisdom and the techniques/methods he shares are very very effective, I recognized this early on so I make myself obsessed with him to get what he is saying and sharing, but I am not obsessed anymore, I've watched everything and been with him a few times, now I need to integrate it for myself within myself, but I share his stuff frequently because it is so effective, but I get attacked for that, which is not so good!

[Natasha Tori Maru]

12 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

What pisses me off is when ppl attack You for it, or only see You thru a very specific lens.. Ppl think I am obsessed with Sadhguru

I think when someone else's truth doesn't align most see it as a threat - that we, by default, must disapprove in some way. 

I suppose I just see it as their current truth - and maybe I can give them information that might assist them in some way. But I no longer think I have any power to convince anyone or change anyones mind (with reference to truth/spirituality). 

Perhaps you were at first taken by Sadhguru's teachings - and then found a compulsion/drive to really see if he was true in all facets. And we dig into the teachings and find some things are good, and some are not so good, through our process of wisdom and discernment. 

Maybe your only guru is wisdom and knowledge - taken from whatever source is closest/truest to you, on your path🔥

James will learn, with time ☺️

Edited 8 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Malkom]

This is very strange, bro

[James123]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

This comes from an Ego that says I'm absolutely right, everyone else is absolutely wrong..with James123 I sense he has a true desire to help others, share wisdom and such which is fine..but he doesn't listen to others well, the ego identification with his ideology is strong so he can't listen as that would threaten his ego and that hurts..plus there is a difference btwn someone truly wanting to share wisdom and someone trying to convince others, James123 is trying to convince others the trueness of his ideology, which is an act of Ego imo..

Now we all fall into this trap just some more strongly than others.. My solution to this is too recognize that all Potentials have to be expressed sooner or later, there are many ppl in the world that are complete materialist, everything is about the material/physical, nothing exist before birth or after death, then there are ppl like all of Us, we know there is more, and are trying to figure it out and live in that space and then there is everything in between, so this is the reality, when I view ppl that state differing opinions I view thru that filter, it lessens my triggers and makes life go on more smoothly I think:) What pisses me off is when ppl attack You for it, or only see You thru a very specific lens.. Ppl think I am obsessed with Sadhguru, I was for sure but this is on purpose, he is very profound in his wisdom and the techniques/methods he shares are very very effective, I recognized this early on so I make myself obsessed with him to get what he is saying and sharing, but I am not obsessed anymore, I've watched everything and been with him a few times, now I need to integrate it for myself within myself, but I share his stuff frequently because it is so effective, but I get attacked for that, which is not so good!

 

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I think when someone else's truth doesn't align most see it as a threat - that we, by default, must disapprove in some way. 

I suppose I just see it as their current truth - and maybe I can give them information that might assist them in some way. But I no longer think I have any power to convince anyone or change anyones mind (with reference to truth/spirituality). 

Perhaps you were at first taken by Sadhguru's teachings - and then found a compulsion/drive to really see if he was true in all facets. And we dig into the teachings and find some things are good, and some are not so good, through our process of wisdom and discernment. 

Maybe your only guru is wisdom and knowledge - taken from whatever source is closest/truest to you, on your path🔥

James will learn, with time ☺️

 

14 hours ago, James123 said:

The path is losing anything and everything.

İncluding these sentences.

 

[Someone here]

15 hours ago, James123 said:

İf you think you find the Truth, you didn't.

I don't get it .why ? Go grab a coffee mug..isn't the mug "true" ..real ..existing? 

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I don't get it .why ? Go grab a coffee mug..isn't the mug "true" ..real ..existing? 

Can arm recognize itself as an arm? Impossible.

You can't get it. Because, it is You.

As an arm, You simply Be.

 

[Someone here]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

Can arm recognize itself as an arm? Impossible.

You can't get it. Because, it is You.

As an arm, You simply Be.

 

I understand and agree when talking absolutely.  But notice you have to come to this conclusion itself to be able to say this and understand it and become convinced of it . Right ?

[James123]

6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I understand and agree when talking absolutely.  But notice you have to come to this conclusion itself to be able to say this and understand it and become convinced of it . Right ?

Actually, no. Because, "it is saying if you think you find it". 

That mean is not that you that finds, but when you stop looking.

So this is not a understanding or becoming convince. But, just stopping. And when you stop, there is no action to find anything.

Therefore, You simply Be 😊 

This shit is so funny brother 😂 

[Someone here]

@James123

5 minutes ago, James123 said:

This shit is so funny brother 😂 

abso-fucking-lutely..very funny especially if you are high on something 🤣

[Dodo]

6 minutes ago, James123 said:

Actually, no. Because, "it is saying if you think you find it". 

That mean is not that you that finds, but when you stop looking.

So this is not a understanding or becoming convince. But, just stopping. And when you stop, there is no action to find anything.

Therefore, You simply Be 😊 

This shit is so funny brother 😂 

If im looking, i cease to be? Top lols

[Someone here]

@Dodo he is saying there is zero distance between "you " and "truth " . You don't need to seek it and you can't find it..because it is already you .

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@James123

abso-fucking-lutely..very funny especially if you are high on something 🤣

Oxygen is enough that we don't even see😂 😂 😂 

Just now, Someone here said:

@Dodo he is saying there is zero distance between "you " and "truth " . You don't need to seek it and you can't find it..because it is already you .

Exactly 😂 💯 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

In general the more we speak and try to correct/convince the less certain we are.