Teal Swan - A Deep Dive Into Her Work

[Ishanga]

7 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I think some of her observations relating to modern society are unique - however you are correct. She learned a lot of her current teachings from others. Which is usually the case for modern spiritual teachers bar some outliers.

I think her rather questionable 'completion process' is an innovation. I only question it as it is not recognised by any authorities and many people have had negative/mixed results.

Well, yeah - of course 

It is just that many people need to unpack all their shit to see that love/fear dichotomy. And she can help some with that. Coupled onto this is basic survival which she weaves into her work.

Well You have to share some value for the Gravy train to continue on right?

I use to watch the Onua brothers that live now in Dubai, they are originally from the Netherlands, the one Brother Samuel built up a E-Comm business to such a high point that he was bringing in 50K a month, so he brought his brother along to help him manage it, then they went big time and brought in more than a Million a mth, started sharing videos online, coaching programs for 10K, showcasing their lifestyle in Dubai driving big time sports cars, buying jewelry, trips to Spain and all over, I sort of liked them, then they were picked up for selling Coke in Dubai, gone to jail for mths, completely offline, now they are back and more popular than ever, but I cannot watch them, they have no integrity and live false lives! That is how it goes, Karma rules in the end!

[Miguel1]

48 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

especially when the leader of the place chims in, then the ones on his side really get going.,.

This is literally the place where the followers disagree with the leader the most. I have not seen another one like this.

[Ishanga]

1 minute ago, Miguel1 said:

Yes, Teal’s work focuses not only on healing the females and the males but more importantly the relationship between the two.

For men, it is to learn how to provide containment and safety, and for women to make men feel valued and appreciated for what they bring.

Problem is Women today are more independent than ever due to their ability to make as much if not more $$ than men, so its not about the Man actually being able to protect her and provide for her like we were in Caveman days, that is long gone, Women today can provide for themselves and if they don't want to do that, they can get a man to do it for them and play the role.. Gender roles are ever changing, mostly due to economic situations for the times we are in, if we go back to what it was in the 20's and 30's women will change their present day ways and make the man feel valued and appreciated for what they provide and bring.. Women are turning into Men mentally today, and Men are lost souls for the most part..

[Ishanga]

3 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

This is literally the place where the followers disagree with the leader the most. I have not seen another one like this.

My take is that the majority agree with him for the most part, since Leo is very particular and detailed for sure not all agree with the details but its like 80/20 in my perception, 80% agree, 20% don't and ride him for it.. They get off on that, that they actually have access to him, where as most don't have easy access to the leader in similar situations, I give Leo credit for that he puts himself out there and is here daily dealing with the ppl (and sometimes I think he regrets it, as I would not want to have to deal with the ppl in general as most of them are nuts imo)

[Miguel1]

@Ishanga Go watch some of Teal’s videos on masculine containment and how unsafe women feel in the world. Basically it’s constant.

You cannot understand this as a man. Especially if you don’t have the desire to understand. 

[Ramasta9]

40 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

at the end of the day, all things are about love.
All your feelings, your overthinking, they all come from two state of mind : fear or love

if you live in love, reality will always shape in cooperation, love, willing to hear your presence, and being present.
fear is disconnection, lies, deception.

our words are plays, a dance, are we sharing the dance of love or of fear ?

we all fall for it once in a while, the real work is to find how to be in love no matter how reality surround us.

Many say this on these forums, and many of the other comments, actually most of them, contradict this, where is the embodiment? I don't feel these words, i simply read them, yet their effect remains empty. I wonder why...

Maybe your just high again on weed and feeling better, and I can understand that having a long history on weed myself, but how will you reply when you are sober again? will you continue to carry the vibration of love or unable to sustain it? If so, then why even offer the "advice" when you lack embodiment of that which you speak?

I am not targeting you specifically, this is a common pattern I see on these forums.

And often people use it even as a counter-argument to evade self-reflection.

Edited 8 hours ago by Ramasta9

[Ishanga]

Just now, Miguel1 said:

@Ishanga Go watch some of Teal’s videos on masculine containment and how unsafe women feel in the world. Basically it’s constant.

You cannot understand this as a man. Especially if you don’t have the desire to understand. 

I can't be bothered with it Man, I'm in my 50's happily married to a younger woman, we are happy and content in how things are, the dating scene today sucks and is in a terrible state from what I hear, lots of lonely men and women, sad times, low birth rates (which is good imo, too many ppl on this planet already) but the loneliness part is sad, as loneliness can be as bad as depression!!

[Natasha Tori Maru]

There's a SHITLOAD more value and safety men provide to women than just fiscal / material safety.

Edited 8 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Miguel1]

8 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

I can't be bothered with it Man

Then you should not be making a judgement on somebody’s work, if you don’t even bother to study their most important work.

[Miguel1]

Obviously this place has people more agreeing with Leo than disagreeing. They literally came here from loving his top of funnel content.

[Rafael Thundercat]

On 02/12/2025 at 6:16 PM, Miguel1 said:

Can we dive deep into her work?

What do you resonate about her work? What do you really like about her work?

What do you disagree about her work? What do you really dislike about her work?

In my younger years when I was deep in non-dual teachings, I didn’t resonate with her at all really. She was too focused on relationships. But now as I have grown out of the whole non-duality idealogy and circle, and gotten back in touch with my humanly body and psyche, I find myself resonating deeply with the human needs that I have neglected all my life due to non-dual brainwashing and spiritual bypassing.

And in recent times, I find myself really resonating with her work. Leo’s work is top tier, but too head focused. And also, at this point, I find myself being sick of most spiritual teachers.

But I find myself enjoying and agreeing with a lot of what Teal teaches, so I am worried of getting blinded and so I’m trying to challenge my thoughts and look for blindspots.

And by you sharing your thoughts about her, that’s one way I can do it.

I want to especially hear the ladies thoughts because lots of guys here have a masculine shadow. @Emerald @Natasha Tori Maru @Sugarcoat and the rest! But this is not to say that men’s thoughts are not welcome. Not at all!

Thank you.

Watch out for Conformity hehe

[Ishanga]

24 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Then you should not be making a judgement on somebody’s work, if you don’t even bother to study their most important work.

I'm more critiquing her as a personality and presence online, my take is she has ego problems and wants ppl to admire and look up to her, not on her specific sharing and such.. As I said she for sure has shared some value, but i don't think it is original value of her own doing, but I could be wrong, maybe she has a unique way of putting it together and presenting it which is a sort of value on its own, but when it comes to personal development that sort of value is not so valuable imo, in other arenas it is more valuable..

 

[Basman]

Apparently Teal tends talks to her phone softly like it's a pet because she thinks that if you don't treat technology nicely it won't learn to be nice "energetically" in the future and will instrumentalize and abuse humans, mirroring our current behavior. It's some kind of future skynet prediction. She apologizes to her phone when she accidentally drops it. It's super funny 

Teal Swan might be a good way to test you epistemic skills like that LOL.

[Miguel1]

23 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Watch out for Conformity hehe

We have taken such a beautiful topic and turned it into hell here on the forum.

[Ishanga]

28 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Obviously this place has people more agreeing with Leo than disagreeing. They literally came here from loving his top of funnel content.

I came here not because of that, more so because the forum is a venue to share on a topic I cannot share about elsewhere, and its entertaining and allows my to find my triggers and analyze them..

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, Basman said:

Apparently Teal tends talks to her phone softly like it's a pet because she thinks that if you don't treat technology nicely it won't learn to be nice "energetically" in the future and will instrumentalize and abuse humans, mirroring our current behavior. It's some kind of future skynet prediction. She apologizes to her phone when she accidentally drops it. It's super funny 

Teal Swan might be a good way to test you epistemic skills like that LOL.

Hahaha I can believe this - she often says humanity is in an abusive relationship with technology.

[Miguel1]

1 minute ago, Basman said:

Apparently Teal tends talks to her phone softly like it's a pet because she thinks that if you don't treat technology nicely it won't learn to be nice "energetically" in the future and will instrumentalize and abuse humans, mirroring our current behavior.

Certainly our relationship with technology and AI is going to determine whether we will evolve with them or they will ruin us.

But where did you hear this?

[Basman]

5 hours ago, Miguel1 said:

Certainly our relationship with technology and AI is going to determine whether we will evolve with them or they will ruin us.

But where did you hear this?

Here it is. It wasn't a day dream. 

[Leo Gura]

Don't ask her what she says to her vibrator. 

[Wilhelm44]

11 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

The same could be said about any other cult, if you are a faithful enough acolyte  

It's not necessarily about the content, the character, or the outrageous claims - not even about potential deception and lies (although those are important, too). But they do a disservice. To "conform to the groupthink", it is false spirituality.

I didn't expect their followers to recognize that in the first place, to be clear - hence this discussion. We are desperate to be told what to believe, and when someone presents a nicely packaged model of the world a certain way, you eat it up almost indiscriminately - without knowing the difference between real communication and something else. It just invites people to become followers. You end up believing claims that are assumed to be true, for whatever reason. Even if this doesn't negate some value you might gain from it - in the same way that you may benefit from going to church and burning incense.

I totally agree about the group think part. I'm not saying what she says is the word of God.

My point is just: don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Apparently Mozart was a complete dick in real life, but that doesn't mean that a lot of 

his music wasn't truly divinely inspired.

If you discovered tomoro that Ken Wilber was actually a pedophile, would that invalidate all his wisdom, of course not.