Do You Feel Restored After Sleep?

[SimpleGuy]

Just now, Alexop said:

The West is so rich because it sits on the back of the third world countries. Your country used to be our petrol station and natural gas pipe

It`s really not mine. I used word "my" for expression. Have as much gas as you want mofos ahaha

[Elliott]

You guys gotta quit belieiving the internet. In the u.s. for poor people we have free medical care, food, and housing(currently not enough for everyone). There are working class people here that have ferarris, a lot of working class people have two homes. And NO ONE works hard.

"Medicaid Copays ; Dental services, $3 per visit ; Eye examinations, $2 per examination ; Eyeglasses, $1 per fitting ; Most brand name (non-generic) medications, copay for a non-emergency ER visit is $3., Federal law caps copayments for preferred drugs at $4, while non-preferred drugs can have copayments up to $8 in some cases."

 

The people you hear complaining are usually baristas that grew up in cushy suburbs and moved to some big name city.

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[Alexop]

7 minutes ago, Elliott said:

You guys gotta quit belieiving the internet. In the u.s. for poor people we have free medical care, food, and housing(currently not enough for everyone). There are working class people here that have ferarris, a lot of working class people have two homes. And NO ONE works hard.

"Medicaid Copays ; Dental services, $3 per visit ; Eye examinations, $2 per examination ; Eyeglasses, $1 per fitting ; Most brand name (non-generic) medications, copay for a non-emergency ER visit is $3., Federal law caps copayments for preferred drugs at $4, while non-preferred drugs can have copayments up to $8 in some cases."

 

The people you hear complaining are usually baristas that grew up in cushy suburbs and moved to some big name city.

ChatGPT: 

An ambulance ride → $1,000–$4,000

ER visit for something non-critical → $1,500–$3,000

A simple broken arm → $5,000–$15,000 depending on X-rays, casts, facility fees

Stitches → $500–$3,000

A night in the hospital → $10,000+

These numbers aren’t extreme cases — they’re normal.

If you’re uninsured or underinsured, that’s catastrophic.

Insurance doesn’t magically protect you.

People imagine Americans are safe because they “have insurance.”
Not even close.

Many Americans have:

High deductibles ($3k–$7k they must pay before insurance helps)

Co-pays

Coinsurance

Surprise bills from out-of-network providers inside an in-network hospital

You can have insurance and still get hit with a $10k bill.

aaa.... mhm.

[Elliott]

Just now, Alexop said:

ChatGPT: 

An ambulance ride → $1,000–$4,000

ER visit for something non-critical → $1,500–$3,000

A simple broken arm → $5,000–$15,000 depending on X-rays, casts, facility fees

Stitches → $500–$3,000

A night in the hospital → $10,000+

These numbers aren’t extreme cases — they’re normal.

If you’re uninsured or underinsured, that’s catastrophic.

Insurance doesn’t magically protect you.

People imagine Americans are safe because they “have insurance.”
Not even close.

Many Americans have:

High deductibles ($3k–$7k they must pay before insurance helps)

Co-pays

Coinsurance

Surprise bills from out-of-network providers inside an in-network hospital

You can have insurance and still get hit with a $10k bill.

aaa.... mhm.

Medicaid pays that for poor people

[Schizophonia]

 

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I used to live in Denmark and one of the biggest issues in this stage green Utopia was a large portion of the population being drug, alcohol addicts

No, that's wrong. The OECD estimates that there is a prevalence of drug addiction more than double that of the European Union.

https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/2025/11/health-at-a-glance-2025_a894f72e/full-report/illicit-drug-use_80272510.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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who lived off the system and recieved good money too from the government. Why work in that case?

Because you can't live comfortably on just social assistance, it's just a minimum.

The unemployment rate in Denmark is only a few percent.

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If I had been in the US for example I'd be fucked right now because I don't manage my finances well. Getting an injury in the US would be a real wake up call for me. 

In Europe too you have to manage your money.

 

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[Nemra]

49 minutes ago, Alexop said:

average employees who do meaningless work or are paid for full time but don't even work part-time. I have a friend in Switzerland who does a cumulative of 5-10 hours of work per week from home and gets paid 10k dollars after tax/month. It is due to bad management mainly.

I also work in a corporation doing 30-40 hours of work per week full-time, but I would dream of earning more than 1% of his salary.

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[Alexop]

7 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Medicaid pays that for poor people

only the very poor from what I see. At those levels of poverty you get a "UBI" in Sweden. 

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[Alexop]

Just now, Nemra said:

I also work in a corporation doing 30-40 hours of work per week full-time, but I would dream of earning 1% of his salary.

If you really do meaninful work that helps society in those hours, then you don't fit in what I said. I suppose you don't work in the "first" world.

[gettoefl]

Key to sleep is, sleep at same time and arise at same time. Don't listen to body complaining and groaning. Body is lazy and cunning and prefers sleep. When you're up you feel good and when sleep time you feel good. If you don't want to get up in the night, be sure and drink same ml of fluids per day and you will sleep soundly and not stir. I drink 2l in summer and 1.75l in winter and sleep like a baby. Feel restored refreshed and ready to go. I don't use a snooze button like I used to and I always get up gladly at the beep. Sleep is key to a good life.

[Elliott]

4 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

Key to sleep is, sleep at same time and arise at same time. Don't listen to body complaining and groaning. Body is lazy and cunning and prefers sleep. When you're up you feel good and when sleep time you feel good. If you don't want to get up in the night, be sure and drink same ml of fluids per day and you will sleep soundly and not stir. I drink 2l in summer and 1.75l in winter and sleep like a baby. Feel restored refreshed and ready to go. I don't use a snooze button like I used to and I always get up gladly at the beep. Sleep is key to a good life.

You're treating sleep like changing your oil, an arbitrary number of sleep hours every day.

[Nemra]

10 minutes ago, Alexop said:

I suppose you don't work in the "first" world.

Yeah, I don't work there.

10 minutes ago, Alexop said:

If you really do meaningful work that helps society in those hours, then you don't fit in what I said.

Well, I think so. I hope so. It's in the chip industry.

But I was laid off recently. So, I'll try to find another one.

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[Alexop]

13 minutes ago, Nemra said:

But I was laid off recently. So, I'll try to find another one.

Sorry to hear that. Good luck!

[mmKay]

1 hour ago, SimpleGuy said:

 

I sleep on the bed. Mattress is medium-stiff. I use orthopedic pillow with memory foam. It`s quite comfy. Usually I sleep on my side because it`s quite hard to fall in sleep on your back. My room nowadays is quite cold. About stale air - no, about dust or mold I dunno really. My flat is quite clear. 

 

What are some activities or tendencies you have during the day or week that may contribute towards muscle stiffness and aches in the morning? Do you spend all day sitting? How's your workspace? Is the chair / monitor / forearm / feet situation aligned? How's your footwear? How's your resting posture standing? Do you have scoliosis or other possible musco-skeletal imbalances or conditions? 

[gettoefl]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

You're treating sleep like changing your oil, an arbitrary number of sleep hours every day.

Life is simple, third for sleep third for work third for play.

[Elliott]

46 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

Life is simple, third for sleep third for work third for play.

Limit your pooping and peeing to specific numbers too. Health!

https://www.insidehook.com

Does Patrick Mahomes Actually Sleep for 15 Hours After a Game?

Sep 16, 2022 — Before a crucial against the Los Angeles Chargers in Week 15 of last year, he slept for 14 hours and 52 minutes. 

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[LoneWonderer]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

 

No, that's wrong. The OECD estimates that there is a prevalence of drug addiction more than double that of the European Union.

https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/2025/11/health-at-a-glance-2025_a894f72e/full-report/illicit-drug-use_80272510.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Because you can't live comfortably on just social assistance, it's just a minimum.

The unemployment rate in Denmark is only a few percent.

In Europe too you have to manage your money.

 

I don't doubt there is a huge drug problem in the US. 

When I was living in Denmark I wasn't doing much with my life. I ended up seeing a lot of the dark underbelly of the society as a result. It was a lot more "in my face at the time". I don't know what the exact statistics are for unemployment. Note you can be employed and alcohol & drug addicted. Lot's of those people in Denmark like that too, they have like most Scandinavian countries a drinking culture from as young as 16. We had a full blow bar serving alcohol to both teachers and students built in our gymnasium (how they call highschools there) for parties and social events. Tell me what school in Italy, France or in the US serves alcohol on premise and teachers and young students (some as young as 14) get wasted together on school grounds and it's seen as normal.

Yes, you "should" manage your money if you live in Europe, but do you have to? As long as you have full time employment not really. Will your life be shit? Yeah sure.

Edited 10 minutes ago by LoneWonderer