Do You Feel Restored After Sleep?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

5 minutes ago, Staples said:

I'm trying it for the first time this week for my sleep issues. Works good for me. At least so far.

I preferred microdosing zopiclone, but I recently moved the doctors here won't prescribe it unless they see you with ongoing problems for months.

I'm glad

I could have a sensitivity to it. I take it at night due to severe allergies (bad town planning had those massive Plane trees with the spores all through my suburb). I avoid it if I can. I will sleep straight through for 20hrs if I do not set an alarm. And if I do have to work? God help me!

[VioleGrace]

57 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

But in the EU they take 60% of your income in taxes.

My effective tax rate is like 25%. So the sucker is you. I can pay $1000 for a sleep study and still have thousands left over for a rainy day from the income my government didn't take from me.

Not at all !!!

A regular employe is taxed WAY WAY MORE less than 25% 

It is 25% for an entrepreneur (i am in that case)

That is true for business owner or big entrepreneur (earning 5k/mounth) thought so they get it in the ass

But they usually use a lot of comparability laws (like i do myself as an entrepreneur) to pay a lot less tax and they make up for it, like you are doing in the US i think 

I am talking about France where i live i don't know for the rest of EU, but if i remember well we are one of the more taxed country especially for businesses and we have one of the better health care system (it is still a bit inefficient thought) the ones that do better in that matter are only nothern countries i think.

Edited 4 hours ago by VioleGrace

[Rigel]

Do you guys really use the healthcare system in France? It’s also paid for by taxes here but I never use it. I just pay for people that don’t know how to take care of themselves. I don’t have high opinion of healthcare to begin with. Feels more like « Keep alive at all costs whether it’s healthy or not-care »

@VioleGrace @Schizophonia

[LoneWonderer]

6 minutes ago, Rigel said:

Do you guys really use the healthcare system in France? It’s also paid for by taxes here but I never use it. I just pay for people that don’t know how to take care of themselves. I don’t have high opinion of healthcare to begin with. Feels more like « Keep alive at all costs whether it’s healthy or not-care »

@VioleGrace @Schizophonia

The day you break your arm or suffer a malady outside of your control you'll be thankful it's there. 

[Rigel]

11 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

The day you break your arm or suffer a malady outside of your control you'll be thankful it's there. 

Yes you are right. I am setting the bar too high. I am not entitled to one in the first place.

Edited 3 hours ago by Rigel

[LoneWonderer]

1 minute ago, Rigel said:

Yes you are right. I am setting the bar too high

I agree with you on people should do everything in their power to be healthy and how few take responsibility for their health

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

But in the EU they take 60% of your income in taxes.

My effective tax rate is like 25%. So the sucker is you. I can pay $1000 for a sleep study and still have thousands left over for a rainy day from the income my government didn't take from me.

It's not just healthcare that's cheap, education is too (a few hundred euros a year at university) and you benefit from public services (road maintenance, public transport, social assistance, social housing if you are poor, pay-as-you-go pensions…)
Capitalism simply promotes consumerism.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, LoneWonderer said:

The day you break your arm or suffer a malady outside of your control you'll be thankful it's there. 

Yes this is my concern. If I have a heart attack, tragic accident or other unplanned malady, I do not also want to have to worry that it will be a life-destroying debt to face at the end of recovery...

To add an anecdote - 8 years ago I got terribly sick from a kidney infection. It went sceptic and I was rushed to hospital. 7 nights in emergency to get better. Did not pay a cent. Am very grateful to live in Australia.

Edited 2 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[LoneWonderer]

23 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Yes this is my concern. If I have a heart attack, tragic accident or other unplanned malady, I do not also want to have to worry that it will be a life-destroying debt to face at the end of recovery...

To add an anecdote - 8 years ago I got terribly sick from a kidney infection. It went sceptic and I was rushed to hospital. 7 nights in emergency to get better. Did not pay a cent. Am very grateful to live in Australia.

🙏🙏🙏. I've heard cases of whole families going broke in the US after a loved one is hospitalized in end of life care and they are unable to pay for the healthcare costs.

Here in NZ I only have a work visa but am granted free healthcare. I ran a ultra marathon in March, fucked up my legs and couldn't go to work for over a month and the system paid for everything! I am very impressed and thankful.

Edited 2 hours ago by LoneWonderer

[Leo Gura]

Consider this:

Basic health insurance costs: $3000/yr at least. This is for shit doctors. The worst of the worst.

If you are healthy, you are wasting $3000/yr on that. Over 10 years that is $30,000. If you just saved that money yourself you could cover $30,000 in medical fees, which requires a pretty serious ailment.

If you are reasonably healthy insurance is stealing your money to pay for the sick and old.

And if you are in the EU, that $30,000 will be taken from your income. Unless you have a shit salary, in which case socialism is great for you! Keep on leeching!

Edited 37 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[caspex]

I usually feel like I got forcefully pulled out of another dimension. I don't feel tired though. I think it's just really imaginative and immersive dreams most of the time.

[Breathe]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Am very grateful to live in Australia

My meditation teacher, Stephen Proctor, lives in Australia. If you meditate check him out, he's the best I've come across.

@SimpleGuy I have sleep challenges. Everyone is going to be different but I cut out water for 2.5 hours before bed so I don't wake up too much. Stretching before bed has a massive impact on my sleep, and screens have to be turned off 2 hours beforehand. Not letting my cat sleep on me is also important. I wake up at 3am if I don't do these things.

You may want to look into Matthew Walker. He has a book called Why We Sleep where he discusses these things and more, but he's been interviewed on tons of podcasts so you can get the gist from one of those. He says the number one thing you can do to improve your sleep is go to bed at the same time every night. Not doing so fucks up your circadian rhythm.

[LoneWonderer]

31 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Consider this:

Basic health insurance costs: $3000/yr at least. This is for shit doctors. The worst of the worst.

If you are healthy, you are wasting $3000/yr on that. Over 10 years that is $30,000. If you just saved that money yourself you could cover $30,000 in medical fees, which requires a pretty serious ailment.

If you are reasonably healthy insurance is stealing your money.

And if you are in the EU, that $30,000 will be taken from your income. Unless you have a shit salary, in which case socialism is great for you! Keep on leeching!

These are all good points as well. One thing is that living in the US forces one to be much more mindful of money. You either learn to save money or you're f**ked. You are forced to go out and find employment or the student debt will eat you for dinner. Living in the US builds the character of it's citizens while in the EU we take things such as free education, healthcare for granted. I used to live in Denmark and one of the biggest issues in this stage green Utopia was a large portion of the population being drug, alcohol addicts who lived off the system and recieved good money too from the government. Why work in that case?

If I had been in the US for example I'd be fucked right now because I don't manage my finances well. Getting an injury in the US would be a real wake up call for me. 

I do have faith however that a small minority in the EU will take advantage of the free education system, free healthcare to then go out and work on incredible projects for the benefit of others being free of the debt burden in those young oh so important early adulthood years. The US and EU have xontrasting systems with advantages and disadvantages.

I like the EU system because I do believe when shit happens (imagine high paying ceo becomes redundant, loses everything) there is a system to protect the most vunerable people in society. Who is considered vunerable? Oh so many people out there my friend not just leechers on the system.

Edited 20 minutes ago by LoneWonderer

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

You either learn to save money or you're f**ked.

How life has always been and should be

[LoneWonderer]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

How life has always been and should be

🙏🙏🙏 No excuses

[Natasha Tori Maru]

US healthcare system SUCKS.

Ain't no one gonna change my mind.