Do You Feel Restored After Sleep?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

5 minutes ago, Staples said:

I'm trying it for the first time this week for my sleep issues. Works good for me. At least so far.

I preferred microdosing zopiclone, but I recently moved the doctors here won't prescribe it unless they see you with ongoing problems for months.

I'm glad

I could have a sensitivity to it. I take it at night due to severe allergies (bad town planning had those massive Plane trees with the spores all through my suburb). I avoid it if I can. I will sleep straight through for 20hrs if I do not set an alarm. And if I do have to work? God help me!

[VioleGrace]

57 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

But in the EU they take 60% of your income in taxes.

My effective tax rate is like 25%. So the sucker is you. I can pay $1000 for a sleep study and still have thousands left over for a rainy day from the income my government didn't take from me.

Not at all !!!

A regular employe is taxed WAY WAY MORE less than 25% 

It is 25% for an entrepreneur (i am in that case)

That is true for business owner or big entrepreneur (earning 5k/mounth) thought so they get it in the ass

But they usually use a lot of comparability laws (like i do myself as an entrepreneur) to pay a lot less tax and they make up for it, like you are doing in the US i think 

I am talking about France where i live i don't know for the rest of EU, but if i remember well we are one of the more taxed country especially for businesses and we have one of the better health care system (it is still a bit inefficient thought) the ones that do better in that matter are only nothern countries i think.

Edited 1 hour ago by VioleGrace

[Rigel]

Do you guys really use the healthcare system in France? It’s also paid for by taxes here but I never use it. I just pay for people that don’t know how to take care of themselves. I don’t have high opinion of healthcare to begin with. Feels more like « Keep alive at all costs whether it’s healthy or not-care »

@VioleGrace @Schizophonia

[LoneWonderer]

6 minutes ago, Rigel said:

Do you guys really use the healthcare system in France? It’s also paid for by taxes here but I never use it. I just pay for people that don’t know how to take care of themselves. I don’t have high opinion of healthcare to begin with. Feels more like « Keep alive at all costs whether it’s healthy or not-care »

@VioleGrace @Schizophonia

The day you break your arm or suffer a malady outside of your control you'll be thankful it's there. 

[Rigel]

11 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

The day you break your arm or suffer a malady outside of your control you'll be thankful it's there. 

Yes you are right. I am setting the bar too high. I am not entitled to one in the first place.

Edited 1 hour ago by Rigel

[LoneWonderer]

1 minute ago, Rigel said:

Yes you are right. I am setting the bar too high

I agree with you on people should do everything in their power to be healthy and how few take responsibility for their health

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

But in the EU they take 60% of your income in taxes.

My effective tax rate is like 25%. So the sucker is you. I can pay $1000 for a sleep study and still have thousands left over for a rainy day from the income my government didn't take from me.

It's not just healthcare that's cheap, education is too (a few hundred euros a year at university) and you benefit from public services (road maintenance, public transport, social assistance, social housing if you are poor, pay-as-you-go pensions…)
Capitalism simply promotes consumerism.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, LoneWonderer said:

The day you break your arm or suffer a malady outside of your control you'll be thankful it's there. 

Yes this is my concern. If I have a heart attack, tragic accident or other unplanned malady, I do not also want to have to worry that it will be a life-destroying debt to face at the end of recovery...

To add an anecdote - 8 years ago I got terribly sick from a kidney infection. It went sceptic and I was rushed to hospital. 7 nights in emergency to get better. Did not pay a cent. Am very grateful to live in Australia.

Edited 1 minute ago by Natasha Tori Maru