Mellowmarsh

Why do some people reject the existence of God?

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I can’t wrap my head around why someone would choose to deny the existence of God, not realising their own existence is a contingent phenomena. . why would the belief in God be based solely on “faith” rather than empirical verification of God? 
 

The word Faith just seems to be such a distorted irrelevant word. And yet it’s so common within religious doctrines.
 

Would appreciate your thoughts about the word “Faith” and why the word just seems to obscure the obvious actual truth from our very non physical eyes. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, strangelooper said:

Because god preordained them to be blind to the obvious

Did God not want them to see him? 
 

Rather, God just wanted them to know him through the recognition that there can’t be two seers having a face off with each other?

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God is denying the existence of God.

Edited by Princess Arabia

What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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Fear of having their entire sense of reality  crumbled, challenged and transformed.


Joy

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I think because the idea of God remains an eternal mystery, its not truly grounded and tangible, and I feel this is why many ancient cultures and native peoples didn't worship what couldn't be touched, tasted, seen, because it wasn't always the wisest way, rather they worked with whats been there all along, so they worshiped what is around them and supporting them (nature), that they can more directly connect with daily, the sun, the moon, the trees, the animals, plants ect... Which are all God or Tao, and paradoxically that 'divine essence' can experienced and felt through the physical human experience in this way. So its like skipping the middle man.

In my experience the closest i felt to what people term God is bathing in forests and living off the natural land, growing food, swimming in the rivers and waterfalls, taking care of plants and animals, hiking in mountains daily, and generally living the physical life fully of service to the land and in total harmony with the greater nature around me.

It is through the Mother that we can truly embrace the Father.


I am but a reflection... a mirror... of you... of me... in a cosmic dance of separative... unity...

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4 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Did God not want them to see him? 
 

Rather, God just wanted them to know him through the recognition that there can’t be two seers having a face off with each other?

God don't want, only you want. God is openess without center, and seems that nobody can be open to it without get in panic and invent some grip to feel safe.

God is the death of the self, it's the dissolution in the abyss, the no foundation, the absolute no form, the non thinkable, non definable. God is what the self want to avoid. 

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Because they don't know what God truly  is .they have a strawman idea of God (the old dude in the clouds ) and they judge that .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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^This. They don't know what God actually is, only fairytale conceptions of God.


The event horizon of my mind contains the cosmic horizon of my observable Universe. 👁✨️

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Simple, they haven’t had a direct experience of it.

God is REAL, but the only ones who can justifiably say that are those who have had Awakenings.

The issue is most people who believe in God do so through hearsay and groupthink, with no reference or understanding of what God actually is (requires significant degree of intelligence and cognitive development).

God held as mainstream dogma and belief is what has created modern atheism and anti-theistic skepticism that we see in Western culture today

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God is EnLIGHTenment ( LIGHT ) hidden in plain sight by the contrast Dark.

Dark cannot extinguish Light. While Light can extinguish Dark. 

The key to understanding the clues to GOD is the fact that LIGHT is a constant, because even the Dark is the Light.

 

 

 

 

 

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Why do you call it God?

 

That's why.

 

If you believe in your 'god', why are you asking this?

 

That's why.

Edited by Elliott

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Belief obscures direct divine experience.


Joy

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First the use of the word "God" is a Misnomer, it has to many personalized meanings and misinterpretations based on thousands of years of talk, debate and argument/wars/killing... 

Now in use of this word, if You mean a Supreme Being of sorts that created all creation and is judging You constantly and supposedly Loves You, well that does not exist 1000% guaranteed.

If by God You mean Absolute, or Brahman or Shiva, then Yes that is it.  Its a Creative Intelligence prevalent in all things, especially in living things, with Humans (as far as we know) being at the top of that latter. 

Ppl deny this sort of God/Absolute/Brahman simply because of a Lack of Consciousness, or Awareness of what Reality is, and what it means to be Human...


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

First the use of the word "God" is a Misnomer, it has to many personalized meanings and misinterpretations based on thousands of years of talk, debate and argument/wars/killing... 

Now in use of this word, if You mean a Supreme Being of sorts that created all creation and is judging You constantly and supposedly Loves You, well that does not exist 1000% guaranteed.

If by God You mean Absolute, or Brahman or Shiva, then Yes that is it.  Its a Creative Intelligence prevalent in all things, especially in living things, with Humans (as far as we know) being at the top of that latter. 

Ppl deny this sort of God/Absolute/Brahman simply because of a Lack of Consciousness, or Awareness of what Reality is, and what it means to be Human...

What created Brahman/Shiva?

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3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

What created Brahman/Shiva?

Shiva means "That which is Not", how can that be created??

The question comes from intellect, which always dissects, asks, questions, then asks some more, endless game of going nowhere...

Hence why You will respond and ask another question...


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Shiva means "That which is Not", how can that be created??

The question comes from intellect, which always dissects, asks, questions, then asks some more, endless game of going nowhere...

Hence why You will respond and ask another question...

So you call nothing something, and claim you're more conscious of something that's nothing, more than people that are nothing, presumably, you also being nothing. 

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7 minutes ago, Elliott said:

So you call nothing something, and claim you're more conscious of something that's nothing, more than people that are nothing, presumably, you also being nothing. 

Ppl are not "nothing" absolutely, ppl are a thing, but a thing that can be intouch with a No Thing...We all have that potential within...

In a sense we are both, a No Thing and a Some Thing, that is what Embodiment is.  Paradoxes exist everywhere.. We are Individuals, Unique and Different, while being basically the same, that is the beauty of Creation...

Before Creation was No Thing or Shiva, words don't do it justice, neither does logic, the best I can do to describe it is a Creative Source Master Intelligence that always has been, since before Creation/Big Bang there was no time...I'm not Aware enough or smart enough to understand or comprehend what No Time is like or is...

Edited by Ishanga

Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Ppl are not "nothing" absolutely, ppl are a thing, but a thing that can be intouch with a No Thing...We all have that potential within...

In a sense we are both, a No Thing and a Some Thing, that is what Embodiment is.  Paradoxes exist everywhere.. We are Individuals, Unique and Different, while being basically the same, that is the beauty of Creation...

Before Creation was No Thing or Shiva, words don't do it justice, neither does logic, the best I can do to describe it is a Creative Source Master Intelligence that always has been, since before Creation/Big Bang there was no time...I'm not Aware enough or smart enough to understand or comprehend what No Time is like or is...

And what thought up and created "creation" then? Shiva? Then what created shiva?

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