Dating as a low value man is inevitably painful

[Kid A]

30 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

That's no secret and nothing to get repulsed about. There are worse things that some men do that's more repulsive to women; one of them is calling women sluts and whores while he's slutting and whoring down the town himself and trying to get into every pants he can. Another one is men who deliberately want to sleep with a lot of women. I say deliberately because sleeping with a lot of women can just happen, but if that's your goal, it's a turn off for women. They won't say it, but it is. It's only other men that finds this impressive.

I’m pretty sure most women don’t realize that it’s to the point where we get aroused by random women we walk past on the street and want to sleep with them just because they look nice. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

56 minutes ago, Kid A said:

I’m pretty sure most women don’t realize that it’s to the point where we get aroused by random women we walk past on the street and want to sleep with them just because they look nice. 

I think this is true.

My Dad sat me down for this chat when I was a teenager. He was brutally honest about the nature of men so I would be aware. I wonder how some women learn this without that sort of chat. Maybe through experiencing it, which must not feel nice to many women and girls. 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

I genuinely think the best strategy as a man, from my point of view, and that is regardless whether you are low value or high value - is to just get used to loneliness and develop good coping mechanisms for that. And also being able to love yourself rather narcisistically, although that is more of a universal advice relevant for women as well I suppose.

Even if you are a "high value" sort of man, one day you will understand that the primary reason why most of the people who are close to you, are with you is because you've been serving them some sort of utility - the kind that is not linked with you just being but correlated with your actions. Once this kind of utility decreases because, let's say, one day you'll maybe get tired of the act - you'll see that's you've just been coping this entire time lmao

I dare anyone debate me over this, you'll stand no chance lol

Edited yesterday at 07:25 PM by NewKidOnTheBlock

[pablo_aka_god]

3 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

I genuinely think the best strategy as a man, from my point of view, and that is regardless whether you are low value or high value - is to just get used to loneliness and develop good coping mechanisms for that. And also being able to love yourself rather narcisistically, although that is more of a universal advice relevant for women as well I suppose.

Even if you are a "high value" sort of man, one day you will understand that the primary reason why most of the people who are close to you, are with you is because you've been serving them some sort of utility - the kind that is not linked with you just being but correlated with your actions. Once this kind of utility decreases because, let's say, one day you'll maybe get tired of the act - you'll see that's you've just been coping this entire time lmao

I dare anyone debate me over this, you'll stand no chance lol

I feel there is power in being able to enjoy loneliness.

Last month spent 2 weeks alone in a beach town without working, TV or computer and came back much more confident and grounded. I can now be in a room full of people and stare at the wall without talking to anyone and feel no pressure to talk. feels nice

Edited yesterday at 10:20 PM by pablo_aka_god

[Schizophonia]

4 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I think this is true.

My Dad sat me down for this chat when I was a teenager. He was brutally honest about the nature of men so I would be aware. I wonder how some women learn this without that sort of chat. Maybe through experiencing it, which must not feel nice to many women and girls. 

My mirrors and I are all nice to girls, want long-term relationships, etc.

He exaggerated because he is possessive and doesn’t like the idea of you being “soiled”.

When you put someone on a pedestal (shine by proxy), it becomes threatening if that person gets screwed, takes drugs etc; that is to say, violently loses their “Imaginary self” (I will talk about this notion on my topic on blackpill and co).

And what lies behind this is a kind of jealousy, hence the projection of vulnerability onto you, and the projection of devil lol onto others.

You = the projection of the phallus (of the imaginary self that has the phallus(power)); which could eventually give rise to certain certain masculine tendencies in you, and (especially ?)feminine tendencies in him; in sexual fetishs and different behaviours). By feminine it is indirectly in the infantile/masochistic sense, by psychosexual regression; one should not expect a typical feminine behavior like in a homosexual but rather a “closed” and routine behavior.

The evil men who want to fuck you or defile you in one way or another = projection of his temptation to abandon his imaginary self to enter the symbolic and by extension the phallic dynamic.

Does this resonate with you, or is it complete garbage lol? You'll help me develop my psychoanalysis and clairvoyance.

Edited yesterday at 11:18 PM by Schizophonia

[Monke]

Don't underestimate how much women reward delusional, almost pathological levels of confidence. 

Success with women is about learning the fundamentals and then getting out of your head. Most guys get stuck on the second part. 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

7 hours ago, pablo_aka_god said:

I feel there is power in being able to enjoy loneliness.

Last month spent 2 weeks alone in a beach town without working, TV or computer and came back much more confident and grounded. I can now be in a room full of people and stare at the wall without talking to anyone and feel no pressure to talk. feels nice

That is one way to adapt. Either way as men we have to adapt to this reality in some ways, because there are no alies for us. This is a single player game for us LOL

[EternalForest]

On 11/19/2025 at 11:39 AM, Princess Arabia said:

That's no secret and nothing to get repulsed about. There are worse things that some men do that's more repulsive to women; one of them is calling women sluts and whores while he's slutting and whoring down the town himself and trying to get into every pants he can. Another one is men who deliberately want to sleep with a lot of women. I say deliberately because sleeping with a lot of women can just happen, but if that's your goal, it's a turn off for women. They won't say it, but it is. It's only other men that finds this impressive.

Despite the fact you don't believe it, it's harder for men to get sex than women. That's why its considered impressive. And to me, sex is just sharing love. Nothing wrong with loving sex

[pablo_aka_god]

1 hour ago, EternalForest said:

Despite the fact you don't believe it, it's harder for men to get sex than women. That's why its considered impressive. And to me, sex is just sharing love. Nothing wrong with loving sex

I agree, also the only men who deliberately try to sleep with a lot of women do it because otherwise they won't get any sex. Or they are deeply traumatized bc they were incels in the past.

They only times I've had decent amounts of sex where when My life moved around trying to get sex, else I become an incel.

Not being able to get sex is deeply traumatizing 

Edited 3 hours ago by pablo_aka_god

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

"Sleeping with a lot of women can just happen"

I am trully baffled by the stupidity of that statement and I'm just soaking it in lmao. You really must be completely divorced from reality of your every day normal man to utter shit like this, yet this is probably a rather mainstream opinion of a woman lol

Edited 2 hours ago by NewKidOnTheBlock

[Yimpa]

1 minute ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

"Sleeping with a lot of women can just happen"

Quality over quantity, periodt.

[pablo_aka_god]

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

"Sleeping with a lot of women can just happen"

I am trully baffled by the stupidity of that statement and I'm just soaking it in lmao. You really must be completely divorced from reality of your every day normal man to utter shit like this, yet this is probably a rather mainstream opinion of a woman lol

LOL! that's what I meant! it can just happen for the top 3% of men.

Everybody else must invest (often a lot) on it or be an incel. 

Edited 1 hour ago by pablo_aka_god

[Schizophonia]

3 minutes ago, pablo_aka_god said:

LOL! that's what I meant! it can just happen for the top 3% of men.

Everybody else must invest (often a lot) on it or be an incel. 

This can happen if you pretend to want serious relationships, if you target girls who have no willpower etc.; you have to want it.