Is mathematics invented or discovered ?

[Salvijus]

9 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

What's a loving word?

A sound that carries a loving intention. The same thing can be communicated with a gaze. Or just pure energy. 

9 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

You can poke an amoeba and it will move away to avoid danger - does that imply anything is being "communicated"?

Yes. Your actions are speaking. It's called body language. Ameba is interpreting your actions. 

9 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Same as above: a sound, by itself, is just a sound.

Everything reveberates. And every reverberation has a message. 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 08:43 AM by Salvijus

[UnbornTao]

On 12/11/2025 at 7:34 AM, Salvijus said:

A sound that carries a loving intention. The same thing can be communicated with a gaze. Or just pure energy. 

"Carries." That's the keyword. How does that come about?! What makes it possible? 

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Yes. Your actions are speaking. It's called body language. Ameba is interpreting your actions. 

In a figurative sense, I would agree with your first claim.

Hmm, what if I gave you the finger? Or made a heart shape with my hands? Is there a distinction to be made between what the body does - adopting a certain posture, say - and what is then added to it (perhaps through interpretation), like the existence of gesture, symbol, meaning, and so on?

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Everything reveberates. And every reverberation has a message. 

 

Yeah, sand reacting to sound. Where is language to be found there?

Reverberation may be a function of movement and doesn't necessarily have to involve language of any kind.

Edited 58 minutes ago by UnbornTao

[Salvijus]

8 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Yeah, sand reacting to sound. Where is language to be found there?

Sand is a visual translation of what the reverberations are telling you. Same thing can be translated into many different languages. Now you're seeing a sound being translated into geometry. It can be translated into colors aswell. Then into feelings. And feelings into words. Geometric shapes can also be translated into mathematical equations. There's a reason why Phythagoras, who was a mystic, was deeply interested in math, geometry and music - he was studying the mind of God. 

 

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[Alex_R]

When i'm on LSD trips i got the feeling that they are invented by me .

Edited 2 hours ago by Alex_R