Is Sadguru's Inner Engineering Course worth it?

[TheSelf]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

You are wrong unless you want to quantify that statement.

At this point I have quite a lot of experience managing my own psyche, and all these practices did (which I've tried many) was to enhance the stillness and wellbeing of my mind.

I can understand why you claim such a thing, but the dangers could be there with extreme potent practices and for those practicing them while not purified to certain needed extend.

Just 20 min daily conscious breathing is nothing.

Edited yesterday at 05:24 PM by TheSelf

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, TheSelf said:

Just 20 min daily conscious breathing is nothing.

You would be surprised just how some normal humans cannot handle this. 

They are so repressed and stuck in the rat wheel, that stopping all stimulation for 20 minutes to breath causes a lot of emotional shit to come up and overwhelm them.

In fact it is openly known meditation is not recommended if there is any sort of emotional stuff running amok inside. And just about everyone I know is so repressed... 

[zurew]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

You would be surprised just how some normal humans cannot handle this. 

They are so repressed and stuck in the rat wheel, that stopping all stimulation for 20 minutes to breath causes a lot of emotional shit to come up and overwhelm them.

In fact it is openly known meditation is not recommended if there is any sort of emotional stuff running amok inside. And just about everyone I know is so repressed... 

Yeah you dont even need to meditate - being bored is enough to be the scariest shit sometimes, for the exact reasons you just layed down.

Edited yesterday at 07:28 PM by zurew

[TheSelf]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

You would be surprised just how some normal humans cannot handle this. 

Yeah, not really surprising though, as this should've been taught to us when we were kids, in schools...

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

They are so repressed and stuck in the rat wheel, that stopping all stimulation for 20 minutes to breath causes a lot of emotional shit to come up and overwhelm them.

Yeah, I know someone who tells me I hate anything that gives me peace... unbelievable.

But the problem is not what you experience in meditation, people dont quite understand the simplicity of it.

It's not about stopping thoughts or fighting the mind or doing anything at all to have any kind of experience (like peace)

It's just about recognizing your hiden nature as awareness by just simply being and doing nothing about anything...

If it's an intense shitty experience with lots of emotions comes up, let it be, you observe, you watch yourself watching it! 

If sleepiness comes, you watch...

If boredom comes, you watch...

It's simply giving up and not reacting, even if you couldn't, you watch! 

It's possible for anyone IMO, depends on how well you understand it and know its benefits for you and how much you willing to work for it.

Edited yesterday at 07:47 PM by TheSelf

[Ishanga]

Regarding why he shares what he shares.. My take is that for the newbies he does things slowly, which is wise, and as well there is a liability issue nowadays, he doesn't want to get sued or have court cases saying this or that happened because of what he shares, this is my take on it.. He keeps the advanced stuff, like what the Bramacharia's do (I have no idea what practices they do) to those, and those that go to the Sadhanapada programs which are like 7mths of straight Sadhana practices and volunteering...

Also, he has stated that he has only shared about 1% of what he knows, and he isn't just about the IE program and Shambhavi, his whole purpose was the Dylanalinga Temple they built and created, he's done more temples since then, this drains him allot from what I heard, so that is another part of him that is unique, Osho never did this...

[Ishanga]

5 hours ago, TheSelf said:

At this point I have quite a lot of experience managing my own psyche, and all these practices did (which I've tried many) was to enhance the stillness and wellbeing of my mind.

I can understand why you claim such a thing, but the dangers could be there with extreme potent practices and for those practicing them while not purified to certain needed extend.

Just 20 min daily conscious breathing is nothing.

The dangers of doing Kriya and Kundalini Yoga are extreme if You do it without the guidance of a Guru or Experienced person, so that is also one reason why he has toned them down for new ppl I would imagine...There's enough crazies out there, don't need anymore that are really sincere on the spiritual path!!

[OBEler]

@Ishanga any news about his alien energy encounter on the Lake Manasarovar, Tibet near Mount Kailash?

[Ishanga]

7 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Ishanga any news about his alien energy encounter on the Lake Manasarovar, Tibet near Mount Kailash?

I haven't heard much other than they are going to be releasing some more private videos, stuff that is from more closed door meetings and events sometime soon...

Here's a little clip..

 

[TheSelf]

28 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

The dangers of doing Kriya and Kundalini Yoga are extreme if You do it without the guidance of a Guru

If you are a fool, yes you'll recklessly play with fire.

But if you are a genuine seeker, you own consciousness is your true guidance or guru.

Edited 20 hours ago by TheSelf

[Ishanga]

2 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

If you are a fool, yes you'll recklessy play with fire.

But if you are a genuine seeker, you own consciousness is your true guidance or guru.

Lol, fools rule this world and run rampant all over it:)

I think it is wise a choice how he is doing it.  Humanity is in big trouble, if things don't change soon I don't give us much hope to make it past 100yrs from now...

Edited 20 hours ago by Ishanga

[TheSelf]

15 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Lol, fools rule this world and run rampant all over it:)

Like I'm so happy because of some big hearted people willing to share their wisdom and knowledge publicly I've learnt meditation, Kriya yoga, self-enquiry and all these valuable stuff years ago, otherwise I was deep into darkness and depression...

And this is my true wish of heart to help someone who is in need too so that the light of consciousness emmits to all unconsciousness allows the soul breath and enjoy one's self be freed from suffering. Giving it back

 

Edited 20 hours ago by TheSelf

[TheSelf]

9 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

I think it is wise a choice how he is doing it.  Humanity is in big trouble, if things don't change soon I don't give us much hope to make it past 100yrs from now...

I understand it, totally.

But knowledges being shared to public help too.

But his strategy totally make sense concidering large crowd of people he is teaching this stf.