My Theory on Death

[Thought Art]

I don't know what actually will happen when I die, just like I don't know what will happen tomorrow. But, this theory I have makes sense even without knowing what will happen. I don't think you can know what will happen and that is part of the design of death.

I think that because reality is a solipsistic mind and there is in reality no external reality, or other people. All that exists is a conscious bubble of experience. This bubble of experience in truth can appear as anything it wants to.

So, death is actually forgetting. That is all. Death is just shaking the etch sketch. I think at the point of death, literally anything can happen at all because it's a merging with infinity. So, with death literally anything could happen. Death is beyond human understanding because of how constrained our state of consciousness is. But, death allows for any new dream God would want to create from it's infinite intelligence. 

Memory and remembering I think is a really interesting metaphysical component in reality. I think metaphysical memory is really interesting concept beyond human memory. I think God can just clean the slate whenever it wants and start a new dream at any time it chooses. I think this is already chosen for all of us by ourselves and our infinite mind. 

I think metaphysical memory creates the illusion of time as well. Time can't really exist because all that exists is an infinite Now frame that changes shape. The changing of the shape can pretend like time has passed by impressing that upon itself. Which, is paradoxical. 

So, death isn't anything bad. I don't think it need lead to heaven, or another human or animal life. I think it literally is the door to infinite possibilities. I suspect there are forms of experience God can dream that you can be that aren't even considered "Life" because they are so foreign to how we are currently experiencing reality as humans. I think death can open up the potential to any of these other "realms" as well. I don't know how God chooses based on having no constraints other than what it decides. But, there is likely some kind of divine logic that can only be understood by infinite mind itself, and by actually dying. 

I suspect all human religious ideas around death (at least as commonly interpreted) are wrong. It's far more grand and full of potential than the human mind can readily grasp. 

Edited yesterday at 02:14 AM by Thought Art

[Someone here]

Since reality is imaginary (everything is your imagnitive mind's product. I can't really explain this here ..I did it before in previous threads of mine )Then whatever you imagine becomes real for you .

So if you imagine and firmly believe that after death you will go to hell ..you will. And if you imagine that after death you go to a paradise..you will. And if you imagine and believe that after death you will reincarnate as a new human being (or an animal)..you will. And if you imagine and believe that after death its just pure nothingness forever..then that's what's gonna happen.

So take responsibility for what you are imagining/believing . "Be careful what you wish for " as they say . 

I can't really explain how I came to this conclusion..if you understand that the entire universe is something you are imagining (just like how you imagine the universe in your dreams ) then you are creating whatever experience you are having .

So ..you die every night when you fall asleep and then you imagine a dream world .or sometimes you don't dream at all and it's pitch black .  Well..that's the case with physical death as well..you imagine what comes next . This is why it's important to explore your subconscious mind and purfiy it. Because it created reality .you need to align the subconscious mind with the conscious mind to work together in harmony to create the next dream.

Now I can't deny it ..this is somewhat speculative perspective of mine. So take it with a grain of salt and validate for yourself in your own direct experience and awakening work.

 

[Hojo]

I think its a 0 vibrational state. Everything in your body is a picking up vibrations and turning it into their own unique thing. Your ears pick up vibrations and it registers as sound. Your eyes picking up vibrations and its registers as sight. Your tounge picks up vibrations and its taste. Your feet pick up vibrations and its walking or standing. Your muscles hold vibrations as memories. When you have a hot bath you skin picks up the heat which is a high vibration and cold which is a low vibration. Your stomach grumble its vibration that registers as hunger. Your heart vibrates and pushes blood through you and registers as being alive.When you lose all these you are 0 vibrational state and you become the vibrator ( Its like being in space 0 movement).You become the empty space between planets. The qualia of it not the actual thing because its literally nothing. Its probably really peaceful like getting off a roller coaster you were on for 90 years.

To practice one must just focus on vibrations of life not the identity.

Edited yesterday at 05:29 AM by Hojo

[Leo Gura]

It is possible to become conscious of it.

Death is you getting absorbed back into Infinity.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It is possible to become conscious of it.

Death is you getting absorbed back into Infinity.

infinity absorbed you into that experience.
why it wouldn't do it infinitely.
Maybe death is not even possible for two reasons : one you've never existed, second if we assume you're here experiencing a life, you might be litteraly immortal in all the possible meaning of the word, if you wish gene editing and LEV enough into reality, the dream can keep unfolding like god will it.

Edited 19 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[Peo]

Why is everyone so intrested in death. Before birth is more fascinating.

Persoanlly I wonder what happened the last million of years before my birth. I just spawned into existence one day.

Why not question what happened before you were born.

[Mellowmarsh]

Death is a concept known that knows nothing.

You are a concept known in this conception that knows nothing. 

You are both everything  and nothing  'knowing yourself'  infinitely for eternity.

[Thought Art]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

It is possible to become conscious of it.

Death is you getting absorbed back into Infinity.

Yes, sure. But, notice how you are alive. You haven’t died, and even with some consciousness of it… you are here alive. Death, would mean you aren’t here alive. So that is what is explored here. 

Edited 17 hours ago by Thought Art

[Hojo]

@Thought ArtYou are dead right now in a sense. Its layers. Notice no thought you are living over death. You can see death everytime you stop thinking. You are 'living' over your 'dead' self.

Edited 13 hours ago by Hojo

[Ishanga]

15 hours ago, Thought Art said:

I don't know what actually will happen when I die, just like I don't know what will happen tomorrow. But, this theory I have makes sense even without knowing what will happen. I don't think you can know what will happen and that is part of the design of death.

I think that because reality is a solipsistic mind and there is in reality no external reality, or other people. All that exists is a conscious bubble of experience. This bubble of experience in truth can appear as anything it wants to.

So, death is actually forgetting. That is all. Death is just shaking the etch sketch. I think at the point of death, literally anything can happen at all because it's a merging with infinity. So, with death literally anything could happen. Death is beyond human understanding because of how constrained our state of consciousness is. But, death allows for any new dream God would want to create from it's infinite intelligence. 

Memory and remembering I think is a really interesting metaphysical component in reality. I think metaphysical memory is really interesting concept beyond human memory. I think God can just clean the slate whenever it wants and start a new dream at any time it chooses. I think this is already chosen for all of us by ourselves and our infinite mind. 

I think metaphysical memory creates the illusion of time as well. Time can't really exist because all that exists is an infinite Now frame that changes shape. The changing of the shape can pretend like time has passed by impressing that upon itself. Which, is paradoxical. 

So, death isn't anything bad. I don't think it need lead to heaven, or another human or animal life. I think it literally is the door to infinite possibilities. I suspect there are forms of experience God can dream that you can be that aren't even considered "Life" because they are so foreign to how we are currently experiencing reality as humans. I think death can open up the potential to any of these other "realms" as well. I don't know how God chooses based on having no constraints other than what it decides. But, there is likely some kind of divine logic that can only be understood by infinite mind itself, and by actually dying. 

I suspect all human religious ideas around death (at least as commonly interpreted) are wrong. It's far more grand and full of potential than the human mind can readily grasp. 

You can know all about Death as You know all about Life, it just a matter of Consciousness, both are the same coin just different sides, turn over the coin and You know it!

Memory or Karma is everything when it comes to Creation and Existence, Existence is Creation, Non Existence/Creation is Absolute in various forms, each one more Subtle, until Your at the Absolute of Absolutes, since there are varying dimensions or realms of Existence, here on this Earth, living as we do with Duality and Karma, this is the Grossest Aspect, least Subtle, everything felt is REAL, deny that and Your already lost..

Physical Death is just that, the stuff that makes up Your Body and Brain and such, the crudest part of what we are, this has to die, go back to the Earth, but we are not the Body or Mind, so what is more fundamental is still there (Energy, Etheric, Bliss body per say), this goes on to another lifetime, another body is being made, You unconsciously for the most part choose which body based on Your Karma/Tendencies, since You have no discretion in the inbetween realm...If Your Highly Conscious while Embodied, then You have more choice regarding this...

Time only exists because Space Exist, and for sure is a Relative Experience, it can go slow or fast, they say the more Blissful You are the Faster it goes...

And Yes, in the inbetween realm, there is no time, time exist here, so when Your over there in a blink of an eye your back here embodied, but it could have been 500yrs difference in time from when You left the previous one and into the new one, but in Your Experience it was a blink of an eye..

 

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Ishanga

[blankisomeone]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It is possible to become conscious of it.

Death is you getting absorbed back into Infinity.

This is wrong, death doesn't exist. So death "isn't" anything. You just continue your life after death and you maintain your individual identity. You still keep your individuality and continue your life and nothing much changes. It's not like you lose yourself and get absorbed into whatever

Edited 12 hours ago by blankisomeone

[Zest4Life]

16 hours ago, Thought Art said:

I think it literally is the door to infinite possibilities.

Earlier I wrote about an experience I think was death where I found myself in a black abyss, no time, no space, nothing. At first it felt like absolute emptiness, but then I had the sense that nothing was there because I hadn’t created anything yet (possibilities felt endless).

However, there are two things that I've been wrecking my head around.

First, if free will exists and is absolute, could we choose what happens after death?

Second, if nothing happens after death, can nothingness be aware of itself? Does awareness require a contrast between nothing and something? To illustrate this, is being aware of nothing like a fish being aware of water? Does a fish notice the water itself, or only the variations in it, like currents, temperature, salinity? If there were no variations, would the water disappear for the fish and become an invisible background? Is “nothing” simply the absence of perceivable differences, or could it be an experience in its own right?

Edited 11 hours ago by Zest4Life

[Ishanga]

49 minutes ago, Zest4Life said:

Earlier I wrote about an experience I think was death where I found myself in a black abyss, no time, no space, nothing. At first it felt like absolute emptiness, but then I had the sense that nothing was there because I hadn’t created anything yet (possibilities felt endless).

However, there are two things that I've been wrecking my head around.
First, if free will exists and is absolute, could we
choose what happens after death?

Second, if nothing happens after death, can nothingness be aware of itself? Does awareness require a contrast between nothing and something? To illustrate this, is being aware of nothing like a fish being aware of water? Does a fish notice the water itself, or only the variations in it, like currents, temperature, salinity? If there were no variations, would the water disappear for the fish and become an invisible background? Is “nothing” simply the absence of perceivable differences, or could it be an experience in its own right?

Free Will Exists.  Its only a Matter of how Conscious You are, if Your Completely Conscious, then You can choose to stay here and be Embodied, or go one to the next thing, where You will have Conscious Choice as well, even to the point of choosing what Body to Incarnate into!

[Zest4Life]

5 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Free Will Exists.  Its only a Matter of how Conscious You are, if Your Completely Conscious, then You can choose to stay here and be Embodied, or go one to the next thing, where You will have Conscious Choice as well, even to the point of choosing what Body to Incarnate into!

But to what degree is free will actually free? Because if it were absolute, then you could choose to end your own consciousness. 

[Ishanga]

5 minutes ago, Zest4Life said:

But to what degree is free will actually free? Because if it were absolute, then you could choose to end your own consciousness. 

While Embodied we have to deal with the Body and Mind complexes, lots of that is Karma or Predetermined in a way, what You did in previous lives, the karma created there, and the Karma from the other past lives (could be 100's, or 1000's of lives, as a Human, or plant or other life form), so these process set up who You are today, with all Your Personality traits, Tendencies, Habits, Conditioning as well as with the Culture Your Brought up in, but this is all "Past" actions, if You can live Absolutely in the NOW moment where Life really Is, then all of that doesn't not have to affect You and Your Free to Experience Life as You want to Experience It!

Spirituality is about coming intouch with what You really are, which is not the Body or Mind Complexes, so call it what You want, Soul, Atman, Source, God/Absolute, its non physical in nature, so its boundless basically, always in Connection with Source or God/Absolute, we can touch that as a Human, and when You do, if Your highly conscious, and You die but with Karma left to still work off, then You can choose what body to go into next, like choosing to eat at a certain restaurant, its up to You where to go!!

MahaSamadhi is just that, ending Your own Individualize form or bubble of Consciousness/Life Force, with all its karmic makeup and history.

[Zest4Life]

19 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

While Embodied we have to deal with the Body and Mind complexes, lots of that is Karma or Predetermined in a way, what You did in previous lives, the karma created there, and the Karma from the other past lives (could be 100's, or 1000's of lives, as a Human, or plant or other life form), so these process set up who You are today, with all Your Personality traits, Tendencies, Habits, Conditioning as well as with the Culture Your Brought up in, but this is all "Past" actions, if You can live Absolutely in the NOW moment where Life really Is, then all of that doesn't not have to affect You and Your Free to Experience Life as You want to Experience It!

It really hit me when Leo said in his last video that personality is a genetic thing and that we are discovering ourselves (not building). I suppose this is just an extended version of it.
 

Edited 9 hours ago by Zest4Life

[Ishanga]

2 minutes ago, Zest4Life said:

It really hit me when Leo said in his last video that personality is a genetic thing and that we are discovering ourselves (not building). I suppose this is just an expended version of it.
 

Genes is Karma, is a form of memory, there are other form of memory too that influence Us and make us who we are or appear to be on a daily basis. Karma is also what binds You to the body, there are 5 bodies that make up a Human Being, this is yogic science, Food Body, Mental Body, Energy Body, Etheric/Astral Body, and Bliss Body, most are only Aware of their Food and Mental Body to a low degree... 

There are also actions (karma being created) in 4 main places for a Human, Body Action, Mind Action, Emotional Action, Energy Action, again most are 99% unconscious of all the Actions taking place in these areas, that is why their lives are spinning out of control and they have no idea why or make up stories like God or Aliens or Ghosts are controlling them.. So if we raise our Consciousness levels, then all of this comes into Your Perception, then Karma has less effect on You, then You have Free Will available to You, here while Embodied and after Your Body dies (the Energy Body, Etheric and Bliss Body goes on, kept together by your Karmic Makeup, Karma is like glue keeping it all together)..

So when Body dies, the other bodies go on, karma included and if Your consciousness is high, You can choose where to go next...

[JoshB]

Death only appears to be real if you're identified with something. Your lack of understanding of death will dissolve when your identity dissolves. 

And as leo mentioned when you become concious of death you will realize infinity which is totally identical as having no identity. 

 

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Zest4Life said:

Earlier I wrote about an experience I think was death where I found myself in a black abyss, no time, no space, nothing. At first it felt like absolute emptiness, but then I had the sense that nothing was there because I hadn’t created anything yet (possibilities felt endless).

However, there are two things that I've been wrecking my head around.

First, if free will exists and is absolute, could we choose what happens after death?

Second, if nothing happens after death, can nothingness be aware of itself? Does awareness require a contrast between nothing and something? To illustrate this, is being aware of nothing like a fish being aware of water? Does a fish notice the water itself, or only the variations in it, like currents, temperature, salinity? If there were no variations, would the water disappear for the fish and become an invisible background? Is “nothing” simply the absence of perceivable differences, or could it be an experience in its own right?

I have to say, and especially pertaining to the last paragraph, these are the most powerful and insanely insightful questions I've heard on this forum pertaining to the subject that I've seen so far and I can tell you have intuition and understanding of this. 

Only thing I'll say about the questions is that there's no free will and no so-called human has never made a choice, conscious or unconscious, ever about anything no matter how real that notion may seem.  I'll leave it at that but I do like the fish question. Answer that and there's the secret to existence and why nobody can know anything or even relate to anything without separation which is illusory and doesn't exist already. 

[Ishanga]

3 minutes ago, JoshB said:

Death only appears to be real if you're identified with something. Your lack of understanding of death will dissolve when your identity dissolves. 

And as leo mentioned when you become concious of death you will realize infinity which is totally identical as having no identity. 

 

Yes, we have the power to identify, most identify with their Body and Mind, both are accumulated things, Body via Food, Mind via 5 sense input data, but we are neither of these things, as what was there before the Body and Mind came forth, what is the foundation upon which the Body and Mind is built on? Find out what that is, then things Transform!