Jordan Peterson Got Pneumonia

[Ramasta9]

3 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Bro, with all due respect, what do you know about their situation or many others? As far as we know, they had a miserable life full of health issues and presumably, they did try everything they could and the carnivore diet was the best thing they ever tried for their issues, they have no reason to lie about it.

I myself had many weird health issues all my life, tried every diet possible, was vegan for one and a half years, frugivorous, did juice fasts, raw foods, all of that and my health only got worse until i let go of this close-mindedness of "vegan diet is the best", eat meat again, tried carnivore and never felt better in my life. 

What would you do if all the scientists and all the studies in the world told you that a vegan diet is the best, but you feel horrible on it, and when you try only meat, you feel fantastic? Particularly, fuck everyone, i will go with my direct experience. 

Drop your dogmas. 

I would go back to the original diet and lifestyle of humans, originally forest dwellers. Diet is not a one-type-fix-all if the education and environment is incorrect. I went through it all too, believe me, i realized the greater issue was diet can be correct but we still remain sick living an artificial life.

The moment i started to live more in nature, camping and hiking for weeks on in natural environments, I even build a teepee on someones land once and lived there for months, it was the most healing thing I ever done, why? because I was living more simply, as nature intended, not being online or around electronics 24/7 frying our nervous systems, exposed by harsh city frequencies, chemicals and toxins in the food and environment.

On the contrary I was moving my body daily, working on the land, climbing trees, picking fruit, feeding the animals, exercising and sweating in the sun, swimming in the fresh river multiple times a day (the original baptism)... barefeet on the land, touching trees and connecting with the wild-life, but also enjoying myself... not forcing myself to do these things, by the evening we had a fire, sang songs and played drums and danced, health was better than ever, and what I ate? Simple really, mono-meals, fruit & nuts during the day, whatever was accessible from, the land, and occasionally baked potatoes or pumpkin in the afternoon/early evenings, fresh herbal teas, but yes simple living = real health. Occasionally I had some eggs from the chickens or fish, but often I found I only craved them when i felt (emotionally/spiritually) down, otherwise they made me feel heavier and dull.

These people who don't get healthy have not completed the full circuit and picture, have not understood nature, and often not educated enough what to do and are often guided by other people living sickly in an artificial environment thinking they are health or doctors, rather they too are sick, just unaware of it.

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Krishnamurti 

[Twentyfirst]

You won't find a satisfying conclusion to the diet debate for another 100 years. Just stick to your diet and leave it there. One of the most nonsense things to talk about

I'm telling you. It's those relics he uses as art man

[Hayato]

The carnivore diet is a disaster. The body needs glucose from fruits and vegetables to function properly and when on carnivore, meaning only meat and nothing else, it can not get them.

(as per Medical Medium information) 

Wishing Jordan a speedy and miraculous recovery.

 

 

[something_else]

8 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

Dr Leonard Coldwell and some other doctors from Japan have cured thousands of patients with a very high success rate of 85 - 95% of cancer and other diseases from temporarily putting them on a 100% raw plant-based diet, high Vitamin C, and simple nature therapy / exposures.

Sure they did, lol.

Obviously if you eat healthy throughout your entire life it significantly reduces the chance of you getting serious diseases, it's a preventative/proactive measure you take over many years. 

But the idea that you could cure pre-existing late stage cancer with a temporary prescription of broccoli and camping just seems a bit delusional.

Edited 10 hours ago by something_else

[Ramasta9]

44 minutes ago, something_else said:

Sure they did, lol.

Obviously if you eat healthy throughout your entire life it significantly reduces the chance of you getting serious diseases, it's a preventative/proactive measure you take over many years. 

But the idea that you could cure pre-existing late stage cancer with a temporary prescription of broccoli and camping just seems a bit delusional.

This is a simple response from a lack of proper education and repetitive programming. Dr Coldwell is the real deal, and he is not the only one.

The issue with these doctors who actually have saved thousands of people is that are a threat to the pharmaceutical system, so they and their work gets thrown in the shadows and banned / hidden from the mainstream. In which controls the western medical system, financial system, media, education, and much more than you realize, because any cure is a threat to their entire business, hence why psychedelics and natural therapies are often shunned and kept as deep in the shadows as possible.

Think about it, if you made 200+ billion a year of cancer patients alone for the last several decades or more, you could literally make your own laws and puppet the entire globe to think, believe and do what you want. I assume being on these forums you have a little more than average intelligence.

Other channels have been banned off utube but this channel literally has hundreds of doctors exposing the truth.

Edited 10 hours ago by Ramasta9

[koops]

Mold?  lol

These people live in their own bubble of health optimization...

[Recursoinominado]

5 hours ago, Hayato said:

The carnivore diet is a disaster. The body needs glucose from fruits and vegetables to function properly and when on carnivore, meaning only meat and nothing else, it can not get them.

The body can produce glucose from protein and from fat.

Go to any carnivore diet video on YouTube (or any carnivore diet group on Reddit or Facebook) and read the comments, you will find thousands of incredible reports, from mild improvements to reversing diabetes, curing arthritis, life-long chronic pain, chronic depression, anxiety, brain fog, 

MANY are ex-vegans (like myself) who were in horrible health condition following vegan diets and started thriving on the carnivore diet.

Is it for everyone? I don't think so, but you can't deny thousands of reports.

Personally, I find the best diet for me to be a combination of the carnivore diet and fruits, along with some avocado. Especially considering long-term dieting (years and decades), i can't imagine eating only meat for the rest of my life being a complete diet, nor i think humans are 100% carnivores, this is silly. Although there are many reports of people following a strict carnivore diet for years and feeling great.

We can eat basically anything and survive mostly fine, but thriving is another thing.

Genetics plays a big role. 

[Recursoinominado]

10 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

I would go back to the original diet and lifestyle of humans, originally forest dwellers. Diet is not a one-type-fix-all if the education and environment is incorrect. I went through it all too, believe me, i realized the greater issue was diet can be correct but we still remain sick living an artificial life.

The moment i started to live more in nature, camping and hiking for weeks on in natural environments, I even build a teepee on someones land once and lived there for months, it was the most healing thing I ever done, why? because I was living more simply, as nature intended, not being online or around electronics 24/7 frying our nervous systems, exposed by harsh city frequencies, chemicals and toxins in the food and environment.

On the contrary I was moving my body daily, working on the land, climbing trees, picking fruit, feeding the animals, exercising and sweating in the sun, swimming in the fresh river multiple times a day (the original baptism)... barefeet on the land, touching trees and connecting with the wild-life, but also enjoying myself... not forcing myself to do these things, by the evening we had a fire, sang songs and played drums and danced, health was better than ever, and what I ate? Simple really, mono-meals, fruit & nuts during the day, whatever was accessible from, the land, and occasionally baked potatoes or pumpkin in the afternoon/early evenings, fresh herbal teas, but yes simple living = real health. Occasionally I had some eggs from the chickens or fish, but often I found I only craved them when i felt (emotionally/spiritually) down, otherwise they made me feel heavier and dull.

These people who don't get healthy have not completed the full circuit and picture, have not understood nature, and often not educated enough what to do and are often guided by other people living sickly in an artificial environment thinking they are health or doctors, rather they too are sick, just unaware of it.

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Krishnamurti 

Not everyone can live in nature; most people have to make the best of the situation they are in. Diet and exercise are like the 80/20 of our health. In some places, people can't even get a decent dose of sunlight lol

And, in my experience, even if you have the perfect lifestyle, in nature and all of that, but you eat the wrong foods for you, it will derail all your health. 

Ps: i lived both in big cities and in nature, diet is king. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Recursoinominado

[something_else]

5 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

The issue with these doctors who actually have saved thousands of people is that are a threat to the pharmaceutical system, so they and their work gets thrown in the shadows and banned / hidden from the mainstream. In which controls the western medical system, financial system, media, education, and much more than you realize, because any cure is a threat to their entire business, hence why psychedelics and natural therapies are often shunned and kept as deep in the shadows as possible.

Think about it, if you made 200+ billion a year of cancer patients alone for the last several decades or more, you could literally make your own laws and puppet the entire globe to think, believe and do what you want. I assume being on these forums you have a little more than average intelligence.

Other channels have been banned off utube but this channel literally has hundreds of doctors exposing the truth.

In some sense I agree with you, our society favours quick pharmaceutical fixes over long term healthy choices. That isn't really a secret, and yes, big pharmaceutical companies exploit this desire we have for quick fixes.

But you are suggesting something even more extreme than this. You're suggesting that there is a natural quick fix available to anybody, which is being kept secret in some worldwide conspiracy. 

There are many problems with this thinking. Here are a few that come to mind:

• why do the rich and powerful, who are presumably aware of this conspiracy, still die of cancer and other ailments when simple and readily available vegetables could cure them?
• how many people would need to know about a conspiracy of this scale? probably several million people worldwide, what are the chances they all keep their mouth shut and the secret doesn't leak? any one of them could revolutionise the world at a moment's notice, yet for some reason they don't
• what is the mechanism by which, for example, broccoli, kills cancer cells? yes, eating healthy throughout your entire life will prevent many diseases, but you are suggesting that eating a specific diet can cure, not just prevent, cancer. That literally means there has to be a mechanism via which broccoli kills cancer cells if what you are saying is true

[UnbornTao]

4 hours ago, Recursoinominado said:

diet is king. 

Arguably, exercise and moving your body are even more crucial.

Bring to mind astronauts who spend weeks in space.

Anyhow, quick sidenote there.

[Recursoinominado]

55 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Arguably, exercise and moving your body are even more crucial.

Bring to mind astronauts who spend weeks in space.

Anyhow, quick sidenote there.

In my experience, what you eat is more important.

I was always very active, gym, sports, martial arts, yoga, I am even a Vinyasa Yoga Teacher, but my health kept declining until i ate the right foods.

[UnbornTao]

4 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

In my experience, what you eat is more important.

I was always very active, gym, sports, martial arts, yoga, I am even a Vinyasa Yoga Teacher, but my health kept declining until i ate the right foods.

Without exercise, astronauts' bodies quickly deteriorate. I'm not sure what their diet is like, but even if you were to fast for a week, I doubt the consequences would be as severe as those of complete physical inactivity - like in zero gravity. 

[Recursoinominado]

10 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Without exercise, astronauts' bodies quickly deteriorate. I'm not sure what their diet is like, but even if you were to fast for a week, I doubt the consequences would be as severe as those of complete physical inactivity - like in zero gravity. 

Bro, we are not in space; we have gravity, and we use our bodies daily to perform various tasks, even if we are sedentary, which isn't recommended. 

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, something_else said:

But the idea that you could cure pre-existing late stage cancer with a temporary prescription of broccoli and camping just seems a bit delusional.

You probably can cure some people that way. But that doesn't mean it is right for everyone.

Scientists make stupid average generalizations because they never deal with an individual. All they know are averages.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

You probably can cure some people that way. But that doesn't mean it is right for everyone.

Scientists make stupid avergae generalizations because they never deal with an individual. All they know are averages.

It's not always feasible for scientists to come up with findings that are based on one individual. They usually aren't clinicians who work with individual patients.

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Hardkill said:

It's not always feasible for scientists to come up with findings that are based on one individual. They usually aren't clinicians who work with individual patients.

That's not my problem.

I am after truth, not science.