Questions for the “We are one consciousness” crowd.

[theoneandnone]

If we are all one consciousness why does solipsism win every time? Why can’t you speak to people telepathically if we are all one hive mind. Why  we are separated and your only your own individual with no access points but yourself and always yourself. Why can’t you remotely view through another persons mind and body. The only evidence I’ve seen of this is from some government studies on telepathy and remote viewing but still does not show we are all ONE. I’ve heard of some people have psychedelic experiences and being telepathic with people but that’s still up to be debated. Also aliens have been told to speak telepathic but that’s still all hearsay. Non duality fails. Analytical idealism fails. Universal consciousness fails. NDEs fail. We’re all one we’re all fractals of god fails. 

Edited Saturday at 07:39 PM by theoneandnone

[Deziree]

It could be we are one soul. Not necessarily one mind. If you catch the drift.

[Princess Arabia]

We are one is not the same as just one or not two. WE CANNOT BE ONE. We suggests more than one. United maybe, but not one; but the Absolute isn't united, it's all there is. 

Stop this we are one whatever nonsense. There is no we and that's why questions and inquiries like these arise. 

[ivankiss]

Ugh...

[ivankiss]

Answer for it's a me Mario severely depressed solipsist:

There is no hope for you in this lifetime, or the following 13. Enjoy the fire.

[Sandroew]

@ivankiss I dont think that is a fair assessment of the OP. I get that you were humorous, but i would rather keep a positive attitude towards asking questions on this forum. And i havent seen the OP in the lengthy solipsism debates, so you could have just focused on other aspects of the question and not bring up solipsism at all.

[ivankiss]

@Sandroew This is my 73 attempt in a row to open his eyes. You might have missed out on that. The further away someone is the louder you must yell for them to hear you.

[vibv]

3 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

We are one is not the same as just one or not two. WE CANNOT BE ONE. We suggests more than one. United maybe, but not one; but the Absolute isn't united, it's all there is. 

Stop this we are one whatever nonsense. There is no we and that's why questions and inquiries like these arise. 

"It's definitely like this and most definitely not like that!!" says the mind that has been created by trying to avoid contradictions.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, vibv said:

"It's definitely like this and most definitely not like that!!" says the mind that has been created by trying to avoid contradictions.

Hehe. Doesn't matter. 

[vibv]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Hehe. Doesn't matter. 

⭐️ ✨Only stars

Edited yesterday at 08:16 AM by vibv

[emil1234]

@theoneandnone i have personally experienced a non disputable telepathic interaction with my buddy, very very clearly and unquestionably mediated through the web of the universal consciousness

so from my perspective this post is automatically debunked. to you its just another anecdote ofc but i thought i would throw it out there

Edited yesterday at 10:47 AM by emil1234

[Leo Gura]

Solipsism does not contradict telepathy or remote viewing, or anything.

You can dream telepathy the same way you dream a telephone call.

If you could do telepathy or remote viewing it would not disprove solipsism.

Edited yesterday at 10:50 AM by Leo Gura

[Dodo]

18 hours ago, theoneandnone said:

If we are all one consciousness why does solipsism win every time? Why can’t you speak to people telepathically if we are all one hive mind. Why  we are separated and your only your own individual with no access points but yourself and always yourself. Why can’t you remotely view through another persons mind and body. The only evidence I’ve seen of this is from some government studies on telepathy and remote viewing but still does not show we are all ONE. I’ve heard of some people have psychedelic experiences and being telepathic with people but that’s still up to be debated. Also aliens have been told to speak telepathic but that’s still all hearsay. Non duality fails. Analytical idealism fails. Universal consciousness fails. NDEs fail. We’re all one we’re all fractals of god fails. 

We are all one zero. 

Consciousness is impersonal. Solipsism fails because you say "My consciousness is all there is". Your experience is relative, impersonal universal zero- consciousness is absolute, no one relative individual owns it. It shines through all of us. 

 

You can’t telepathically access others because consciousness isn’t a network of connected individuals, it’s the single field appearing as individuals. The separateness is part of the show, not a flaw in it.

 

Awareness is "one zero": it’s one because nothing stands outside it, and zero because it has no personal center and is space-like (empty)

Edited 22 hours ago by Dodo

[Hojo]

Why cant you understand what people are thinking when you are dreaming at night when you clearly know you are making them up? 

Edited 20 hours ago by Hojo

[theoneandnone]

5 hours ago, emil1234 said:

@theoneandnone i have personally experienced a non disputable telepathic interaction with my buddy, very very clearly and unquestionably mediated through the web of the universal consciousness

so from my perspective this post is automatically debunked. to you its just another anecdote ofc but i thought i would throw it out there

I do not fully disregard your experience im just super skeptical.

[theoneandnone]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Solipsism does not contradict telepathy or remote viewing, or anything.

You can dream telepathy the same way you dream a telephone call.

If you could do telepathy or remote viewing it would not disprove solipsism.

That’s a interesting take wow I’d love to hear you go deeper on this.

[theoneandnone]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Solipsism does not contradict telepathy or remote viewing, or anything.

You can dream telepathy the same way you dream a telephone call.

If you could do telepathy or remote viewing it would not disprove solipsism.

Yes I understand you could still fit solipsism into the cracks. What I find interesting and I would love your take on this why does the mind dream of people? And also in this waking state why is there people? Like what does the mind want to create people what is their purpose ?

[theoneandnone]

3 hours ago, Dodo said:

We are all one zero. 

Consciousness is impersonal. Solipsism fails because you say "My consciousness is all there is". Your experience is relative, impersonal universal zero- consciousness is absolute, no one relative individual owns it. It shines through all of us. 

 

You can’t telepathically access others because consciousness isn’t a network of connected individuals, it’s the single field appearing as individuals. The separateness is part of the show, not a flaw in it.

 

Awareness is "one zero": it’s one because nothing stands outside it, and zero because it has no personal center and is space-like (empty)

I like your feedback too and will keep that in mind, It’s kinda like being born inside a house and never seeing the outside world and saying “nothing exists but this” but just because you’ve never seen the outside doesn’t mean it does not exist. But it still fails because you will never step foot outside that house you will always only know IT so that home and all it’s interior is the ONLY thing!

[Dodo]

12 minutes ago, theoneandnone said:

I like your feedback too and will keep that in mind, It’s kinda like being born inside a house and never seeing the outside world and saying “nothing exists but this” but just because you’ve never seen the outside doesn’t mean it does not exist. But it still fails because you will never step foot outside that house you will always only know IT so that home and all it’s interior is the ONLY thing!

But, you can Know that the space inside that room is the same space outside that room, even if you cant ever go outside. The room is only appearing to separate inside from outside (self from other; inner world from outside world), the space remains one and undivided, pervading/unifying both inside, outside and the walls themselves too. 

Here's a nice song for the question "Why humans" 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Dodo

[Aaron p]

I think the difficulty with solipsism is that an ego tends to imagine that it is total isolation when it's more like freedom togetherness i don't imagine it would be something that feels bad at all. Stage turquoise is unitary and not individualised in SD. Leo gave me some advice, told me that awakening is basically not what I think it is. I think the best way to proceed is to just have unlimited scepticism on the mind and to think at all times "these ideas are probably bullshit," when you think about what awakening feels like. To basically assume that anything you think awakening is...is likely a massive smelly pile of cow poo.