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[Hojo]

@IshangaIf you learn to love to hate yourself, you will never have a bad time. Its logical, if you learn to love yourself you will not like to hate yourself, if you learn to hate yourself, you wont experience love. If you learn to love to hate yourself, you can survive perfectly in any scenario. If you hate to love yourself, its negative. Loving to hate yourself, is positive.

Edited October 22 by Hojo

[Ishanga]

2 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@IshangaIf you learn to love to hate yourself you will never have a bad time. Its logical, if you learn to love yourself you will not like to hate yourself if you learn to hate yourself you wont experience love. If you learn to love to hate yourself you can survive perfectly in any scenario. If you hate to love yourself its negative. Loving to hate yourself is positive.

Love or Hate isn't a "Learning", is an experience You create within, you can either do it Consciously or Unconsciously...

And again the above doesn't make any sense...

Edited October 22 by Ishanga

[Hojo]

@IshangaThe fact that you can do it consciously or unconsciously, implies learning. Unless life purposefully does things unconsciously, for a reason. That implies that you cant do things consciously and unconsciously, life is doing it to you.

Edited October 22 by Hojo

[Ramasta9]

On 10/20/2025 at 10:41 PM, Salvijus said:

Everyone has their own perception of the world and the people in it. But thank you for sharing yours. 

 

You are most welcome  enjoy the game ~

[Salvijus]

2 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

enjoy the game ~

Again you're trying to impose and validate for yourself a perception of reality that is unique to you. Fine, have fun. 

Edited October 23 by Salvijus

[Ramasta9]

1 hour ago, Salvijus said:

Again you're trying to impose and validate for yourself a perception of reality that is unique to you. Fine, have fun. 

I am not trying to impose, I am simply being, playing, dancing. Why does it trigger you?

At the end of the... reality is reality, call it a play, a dance, a game, our perception of it cannot change what it is.

What is "Fine" ?

F eeling
I nsecure
N umb
E xhausted

or maybe... Fear, Inside, Nothing, Expressed?

Edited October 23 by Ramasta9

[Salvijus]

@Ramasta9 ok

[Carl-Richard]

On 19.10.2025 at 11:34 AM, Wintermute said:

I’ve read the whole thread, and it seems like quite a few people here have actually tried Sadhguru’s Inner Engineering and his approach to kriya yoga.

So how about we just ask them point blank about their purely subjective experiences? After all, it’s pretty hard to design a valid, foolproof scientific study on something as complex as yoga. We do have some data from PubMed, sure, but in my view, that doesn’t mean we should dismiss the subjective reports of those who’ve walked the talk and have something to share.

I’d really like to hear your stories (@OBEler @Carl-Richard @Ishanga @The Blind Sage @SamC), and I think they could be useful for others too. You mentioned there were some benefits — but what exactly? And how long did you practice before you started noticing results? Were the results mostly psychological? Physical? Or maybe something more esoteric, like subtle body experiences, energy, kundalini phenomena? What about more low-key effects in daily life? Maybe some of the people you know personally had some interesting experience with it as well?

I think kriya yoga is an important part of self-actualization, and this is a great opportunity for us to learn more about it. 

I have not tried any of his programs, but certainly some of his meditation techniques. But it goes back to "reading energy". Sadhguru videos seem to invoke the non-dual state in me. Maybe I can watch any video with enough attention and openness and the same will happen. But I sense I get "pulled into it" by Sadhguru, Rupert Spira, etc. @UnbornTao

Edited October 25 by Carl-Richard

[UnbornTao]

14 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I can watch a Sadhguru video and go into non-dual states. Maybe I can watch any video with enough attention and openness and the same will happen. But I sense I get "pulled into it" by Sadhguru, Rupert Spira, etc. @UnbornTao

You can watch porn and get aroused too. Doesn't mean the pornstars are enlightened.

Edited October 25 by UnbornTao

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, UnbornTao said:

I can watch porn and get aroused too.

"Aroused" 😂

[UnbornTao]

42 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

"Aroused" 😂

Too technical?

Anyway, it's a state - a change in the body-mind. Not different in essence from being told a joke and laughing as a result. Or feeling inspired after watching a motivational talk.

Edited October 25 by UnbornTao

[Carl-Richard]

6 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Noo you caught it before the edit.

Why? Too technical?

Anyway, it's a state. 

You're like the most interesting person on the forum because you take anything else than Enlightenment as hocus pocus fairytales, beliefs, states, while essentially the rest think temporary awakenings are the real deal. And I appreciate that 😙

Edited October 25 by Carl-Richard

[UnbornTao]

5 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

You're like the most interesting person on the forum because you take anything else than Enlightenment as hocus pocus fairytales, beliefs, states, while essentially the rest think temporary awakenings are the real deal. And I appreciate that 😙

Horniness doesn't increase your consciousness, Carl.

Edited October 25 by UnbornTao

[Elliott]

On 10/19/2025 at 3:50 PM, Carl-Richard said:

My god, on what planet can you claim Rupert Spira is not selling enlightenment? You're absolutely removed from reality.

Are you very familiar with Spira? You think someone with average intelligence can walk away from a Spira talk thinking 'I now need to attain enlightment'? That seems impossible to me. Spira teaches neo-advaita, legit neo-advaita though, not some contradictory runaround stuff, it's bare bones awareness. I don't see anything Spira teaches as something being shown as magical or supernatural, he goes straight to the point. I see his retreats as being sold as vacations, I think they do meditation, so a nice vacation like a meditation retreat.

I will give you, he sells alleviation of suffering. But even look at the Sadhguru occultists on here, they think they're omniscient pontiffs now.

Edited Thursday at 06:14 PM by Elliott

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, Elliott said:

Are you very familiar with Spira? You think someone with average intelligence can walk away from a Spira talk thinking 'I now need to attain enlightment'?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes.

Edited Thursday at 08:41 PM by Carl-Richard

[The Blind Sage]

On 10/10/2025 at 4:16 PM, Leo Gura said:

I did attend a 2 or 3 day live training.

It is certainly more substantial than the online course, but I still prefer actual Kriya yoga.

My bias is for hardcore practices. I don't like wasting my time with watered down stuff. If I am going to do yoga I want the full deal, not a half-measure.

@Leo Gura Sorry, missed your reply.

I understand completely and respect your position sir.

The issue I take is with you throwing labels like 'a pure waste of time'.
For those that want a genuine spiritual process but have other priorities such life purpose/career or dating & relationships, this is an excellent practice. I haven't seen another practice that has all of the following:

1. High potency

2. High ceiling

3. Low time investment 

I understand where you're coming from but I think you have more influence than you realize, you're likely to deter someone who would benefit greatly from this program with casual flippancy.

Think back to when you were dropping videos about meditation such as 'do nothing' or other similar practices. This practice is far more bang for your buck and has it's place in ones personal development, even if they may eventually graduate from it. It doesn't make sense for you to condemn an undergraduate course just because you yourself hold a masters degree. Many others will benefit from it, some of them will remain there, some of them will get to where you are, and who knows, some of them may even surpass you...