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35 minutes ago, Elliott said:

He's a millionaire, if he can cure mental illness why isn't he sharing it for free? 

There's no such thing as "for free" in life. The Law of exchange is universal.

Spiritual teachings have never been free in history. In the past you'd have to srub the floor for 12 years before a teacher would deem you worthy of attention. People are spoiled now. To give dakshina for spiritual teachings have existed for thousands of years in Indian culture btw. It's common sense for tham to give something back whenever they receive something valuable. It's just a natural order of things. 

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@SalvijusSadhguru says the opposite. He says you dont have to do anything to manifest.


Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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17 minutes ago, Elliott said:

He's a millionaire, if he can cure mental illness why isn't he sharing it for free? 

He is sharing it for free for people who need it in the slums. But if you want to reach people, you need power and influence, and that's what money can give. This idea that you want your spiritual teacher to be poor is a weird irrational stereotypical "mental illness" in itself. There is no other scenario where you would want somebody you care about or a project you want to see grow to be poor.

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Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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24 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@SalvijusSadhguru says the opposite. He says you dont have to do anything to manifest.

"you manifest what you exude" should be a correct answer. Or in other words "you reap what you sow" is what sadhguru is more likely to say I believe. You have to double check that quote of his, I doubt you're representing his position accurately. 

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30 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

He is sharing it for free for people who need it in the slums. But if you want to reach people, you need power and influence, and that's what money can give. This idea that you want your spiritual teacher to be poor is a weird irrational stereotypical "mental illness" in itself. There is no other scenario where you would want somebody you care about or a project you want to see grow to be poor.

This is a false dilemma fallacy.

 

I didn't say sadhguru should be poor. If he can cure people it should be open-source and prolific. He's obviously a materialistic con-man.

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18 minutes ago, Elliott said:

He's obviously a materialistic con-man.

So far as I'm aware he's been spending the money on various very successful environmental projects, building schools and providing healthcare, creating schools and providing education for children, taking care of rural communities and giving away free food to the starving, building infrastructure for people to have a special place to do sadhana and grow in conciousness. I'm personally glad he has money to do all those things. People need for someone to do such things. 

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@Salvijus i just watched a video 5 minutes ago where he said you can just sit there and think about what you want and it will happen. He said just thinking it won't happen once can fuck it up.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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17 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Salvijus i just watched a video 5 minutes ago where he said you can just sit there and think about what you want and it will happen.

Something will have to be given in exchange of it manifest still. To make something materialize from thin air, you pay for it with your life energies. 

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1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

He is sharing it for free for people who need it in the slums. But if you want to reach people, you need power and influence, and that's what money can give. This idea that you want your spiritual teacher to be poor is a weird irrational stereotypical "mental illness" in itself. There is no other scenario where you would want somebody you care about or a project you want to see grow to be poor.

This sounds like prosperity gospel from a megachurch pastor.  


Vincit omnia Veritas.

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1 minute ago, Jodistrict said:

This sounds like prosperity gospel from a megachurch pastor.  

What it sounds like is irrelevant when you can just look at the facts. 


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@Salvijus the thoughts are given and the emotion behind them. Which is free manifestation.

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How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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1 hour ago, Elliott said:

This is a false dilemma fallacy.

 

I didn't say sadhguru should be poor. If he can cure people it should be open-source and prolific.

There is no dilemma being suggested. Making money is an obviously smart way of getting your message spread to the most possible, not that it's an impossibility otherwise.

 

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

He's obviously a materialistic con-man.

If you simply assert so, it must be true.

 

9 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

This sounds like prosperity gospel from a megachurch pastor.  

Yeah ok. How would you personally try to reach the most people possible?


Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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8 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Salvijus the thoughts are given and the emotion behind them. Which is free manifestation.

No, you infuse the image with your life energies, only then it manifests. Listen to sadhguru's words more carefully. And you can say your thoughts and emotions costs you energy aswell. You're going to need insane insane insane amounts of energy to manifest something from thin air. 

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12 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

There is no dilemma being suggested. Making money is an obviously smart way of getting your message spread to the most possible, not that it's an impossibility otherwise.

 

If you simply assert so, it must be true.

 

Yeah ok. How would you personally try to reach the most people possible?

'Heal' some people, and make it out in the open. Everyone in the world will flock to you. 

 

You insinuated that I said he must be poor, a false dilemma you tried to make.

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3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

'Heal' some people, and make it out in the open. Everyone in the world will flock to you.

What specifically do you mean? Like performing a scientific study?

 

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

You insinuated that I said he must be poor, a false dilemma you tried to make.

"Making money" = materialist con-man, insinuating that you cannot use money for legitimate means.

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10 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

What specifically do you mean? Like perform a scientific study?

He proclaims to have the cure for a widespread mental illness ----> take a mentally ill person, make them better. Everyone will flock to you, rinse and repeat, the world is saved, no need to steal money from Leo to plant trees in a forest to offset @Salvijus carbon footprint he creates making money to take Sahdgurus Kriya course.

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"Making money" = materialist con-man, insinuating that you cannot use money for legitimate means.

No.

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13 minutes ago, Elliott said:

He proclaims to have the cure for a widespread mental illness ----> take a mentally ill person, make them better. Everyone will flock to you, rinse and repeat, the world is saved, no need to steal money from Leo to plant trees in a forest to offset @Salvijus carbon footprint he creates making money to take Sahdgurus Kriya course.

Jesus was likely mentally ill by today's standards.

Never tell this to a Christian directly, they will torture you on the spot.


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Just now, Yimpa said:

Jesus was likely mentally ill by today's standards.

Never tell this to a Christian directly, they will torture you on the spot.

He was circumcised, clear case of Autism...

 

RFK Jr. Has 'linked' circumcision to autism now.

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2 minutes ago, Elliott said:

He was circumcised, clear case of Autism...

 

RFK Jr. Has 'linked' circumcision to autism now.

Not on my watch!

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Just now, UnbornTao said:

Not on my watch!

My hero ;)


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