AI is the end of women

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, AION said:

How are you so sure 

How many men have you dealt with romantically, sexually and intimately. Please answer. That will also answer this question because I'm sure my numbers are greater than yours. 

[Princess Arabia]

27 minutes ago, AION said:

Slam dunk. But I don’t think we should make fun of her. It is her livelihood to get money for something else. For men AI will be a liberation. For certain women it will be the end of them and they will have to reinvent themselves. Feminism was the first strike at womanhood. Second strike will be AI when men will be able to get sex and reproduction from them. 

Hehe...demonstrating such weakness. This is how weak and victim mentality men operate...ganging up on women just expressing their opinions and their pov's, then trying to belittle by bringing up one's livelihood in the argument where it wasn't a part of the discussion in the first place.  Knowing both your history, this is no disturbance but just empowering the victimhood mentality even deeper. 

[Tenebroso]

17 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

it's in his eyes. The end.

You're not a woman hater, actually quite the contrary and that's the conflict within you. 

You can tell someone hates women by their eyes? I need more detail, I have never heard of something like this before.

I don't hate women at all but what do you mean by the conflict within me? Sounds like there could be a useful insight in there, not to be a drain on your time.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Tenebroso said:

You can tell someone hates women by their eyes? I need more detail, I have never heard of something like this before.

I don't hate women at all but what do you mean by the conflict within me? Sounds like there could be a useful insight in there, not to be a drain on your time.

C'mon, you know how you are on here and how every comment for the last 5yrs has been a negative one about your relationship with women. Duh...that's an inner conflict. Nobody no creature, no being is all bad. People at some point in their lives where there's not a conflict in them resolve issues at dome time or things cease to bother them or beliefs change or they work on themselves or whatever....for you, it's the same story.....FOREVER. Check out your profile and read every comment for the last year. That's a conflict within.

Forget about the comment about that man's eyes, only I will understand that and i don't feel like squabbling about that and why I said that. All I know us it doesn't reflect love when he speaks about women and it has nothing to do with what he says. Plenty of men can speak harshly about women but still reflect an air of love in their tone and eyes while they do it - like you , with the tone, I can tell it's not coming from hate or dislike, but frustration.

[Schizophonia]

25 minutes ago, AION said:

The difference between a romantic relationship and normal friendship is sex. I don’t need to be friends with my gf. That is the problem of today. They want one person to be everything which is unrealistic, pathetic and always ends with drama. 

You want to be friends with your girlfriend precisely because love is an extension of friendship; it's the same energy that sensuality is.

But to be able to have desire, you have to accept the violence of lack (castration, in Lacan, during the Oedipus complex).
If this hasn't been accepted, if castration is denied instead of accepted, then it's the phalic phase in general that is repressed, and one of the consequences, to put it briefly, is the inability to see life and therefore others in a sensual way.

Because to see others sensually (not just women, other men too, without it becoming homosexual; the most androgenous men are often tactile/comfortable), you have to "give them space," like you give space to a strawberry ice cream to savor, and therefore fundamentally accept the lack of this savoring, which amounts to castration.
So automatically, a neurotically slurred psyche will have difficulty desiring/loving.

When you say you don't need to be friends with your girlfriend, you are tacitly admitting that you don't like people, starting with your girlfriend.

[Schizophonia]

@Tenebroso 

I regularly see men who aren't very handsome and/or short being flirted with by girls, even if it's obviously about their looks.

I'm quite attractive, so I'm not going to lecture you, but the goal of rumination is to avoid feeling the pain of withdrawal.
It's good because it might prevent you from getting involved in drugs, lol, but at the same time, it prevents any progress.
Technically, it's even easier to attract and "manifest" if you're high like me, lol, a girl in a frequency where you cope with reality with cannabis or heroin, than in a frequency where you live in defense mechanisms.

That's why I don't like Orion; he seems a bit like that.
People in personal development generally tend to be like that.

[AION]

Perhaps there is something wrong with what kind of guys get rewarded. I think most of the evil in the world is because of this. 

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, AION said:

Perhaps there is something wrong with what kind of guys get rewarded

Part of the issue right here. Seeing it as a reward system. We don't look at it like that, men do. Then you blame us for not feeling 'rewarded' and thinking we're only 'rewarding' certain types of guys. It's not a reward for us but a 'feel like'. Who makes us feel like......which will vary from female to female. 

[Basman]

AI and robotics has the potential to shift the dating market to become more equal relative to the amount of leverage men have over their dating prospects if and when it gets good enough. If you could buy a 1:1 gynoid, who wouldn't want that? It would be worth it to a lot of guys even if it costs an arm and a leg. Kind of like how seeing prostitutes can help you be less needy around women as your less desperate for sex.

Connection seems harder to realize through technology, however. Current AI technology is a sad imitation, who's main draw is convenience and immediate availability as opposed to offering a genuine human connection. I'm worried that people will miss out on valuable growth by short-cutting the most human of prospects, relating to others.

There is simultaneously a neglect of how modern culture separates people in the first place by circumventing the need all together with technology. Why are we so lonely that we are drawn to chatbots in the first place? I believe that we as a society and a species need a new paradigm that makes connection a core value of society, as opposed to purely a happenstance of work, school, hobbies, etc. Expressly coping with a lack of connection specifically with technology is problematic to me. Certain things are worth doing even if they can be automated. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Infantile dreams. 

 

[Kid A]

4 hours ago, Tenebroso said:

I don't think AI is the answer. I think men need to liberate themselves from the idea of love, romance and intimacy all together. The majority of us were never meant to be attractive to women, in the past women were forced to deal with men they did not desire because of socio-economic pressures and norm. The reality is women would rather compete for attractive, high status "real men"......if they can't secure commitment from these men they would rather be alone or get their needs met through occasional hookups. AI is just another cope, what happens if AI gains consciousness then has the ability to reject you? We just have to learn to live with the reality that most of us are not worthy of love.

And how do you know this, exactly?

Just curious: Do you think good work is being done in developing boys into attractive men, with so much time spent on video games, sports, and developing shallow friendships? 

[theleelajoker]

 

1 hour ago, Basman said:

AI and robotics has the potential to shift the dating market to become more equal relative to the amount of leverage men have over their dating prospects if and when it gets good enough. If you could buy a 1:1 gynoid, who wouldn't want that? It would be worth it to a lot of guys even if it costs an arm and a leg. Kind of like how seeing prostitutes can help you be less needy around women as your less desperate for sex.

Connection seems harder to realize through technology, however. Current AI technology is a sad imitation, who's main draw is convenience and immediate availability as opposed to offering a genuine human connection. I'm worried that people will miss out on valuable growth by short-cutting the most human of prospects, relating to others.

There is simultaneously a neglect of how modern culture separates people in the first place by circumventing the need all together with technology. Why are we so lonely that we are drawn to chatbots in the first place? I believe that we as a society and a species need a new paradigm that makes connection a core value of society, as opposed to purely a happenstance of work, school, hobbies, etc. Expressly coping with a lack of connection specifically with technology is problematic to me. Certain things are worth doing even if they can be automated. 

Resonates a lot, especially bold parts (marked my me).

Home office culture did not help. Also, the huge amount of insecurities and fears created by social media and marketing, advertising prevent connection. If I feel bad about myself, I rather hide instead of expressing myself.  And all the intellectualization of life with content creators, life coaches, dating coaches etc doesn't help either. People got laid for thousands of years without millions of coaches that tell them how to flirt. I believe the world would be better off if all this content would disappear instantaneously it creates too much brain fog. 

Re the gynoid, I would not buy it. Admittedly, for whatever reasons (height, looks, luck?) for most of my life I was ok with the female attention I received so I can't identify with men that are in other situation. Different situation, different motives, different choices. 

But also, I enjoy female presence even if I don't want to get sexually involved with her. Of course I am still a man and if she offers both, great. But I spent quite a lot of time with women just for their presence, opinions, energy, sense of humor etc 

[Vali2003]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Infantile dreams. 

 

Doesn‘t get more succinct than this.

[Hojo]

@Princess ArabiaHow many 'real' men have you found in your life? And why dont you have any? Your 'real' men are prince charming in a Disney movie you watched.

Edited Sunday at 06:44 PM by Hojo

[Basman]

55 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

Resonates a lot, especially bold parts (marked my me).

Home office culture did not help. Also, the huge amount of insecurities and fears created by social media and marketing, advertising prevent connection. If I feel bad about myself, I rather hide instead of expressing myself.  And all the intellectualization of life with content creators, life coaches, dating coaches etc doesn't help either. People got laid for thousands of years without millions of coaches that tell them how to flirt. I believe the world would be better off if all this content would disappear instantaneously it creates too much brain fog. 

I think the core issue is that we don't have a rule in collective psychology that necessitates socialization. Historically, socialization was a necessity strictly speaking, but as technology progressed that necessity slowly waned. Marriage and family was an effective method of survival and dividing up responsibilities, but that kind of family building is no longer necessitated by external factors. If you will, our issue as a species as a whole is that we aren't very intrinsically driven.

[Princess Arabia]

37 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess ArabiaHow many 'real' men have you found in your life? And why dont you have any? Your 'real' men are prince charming in a Disney movie you watched.

Why don't you ever have anything good to say to me in this section, EVER. When I see your name pop up quoting or mentioning me in the dating section, I just know it's always something attacking me with. Always. Even when I've bever addressed you in the thread. ALWAYS. I wonder what would that prove in a court of law. A ha, projection of hatred. Go sit down somewhere and worry about why you hate women so much and stop projecting that hatred unto me please. I'm so sick of you in this section. Only section I can't tolerate your comments in because they're always attacking me of some sort. Go away.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Why don't you ever have anything good to say to me in this section, EVER. When I see your name pop up quoting or mentioning me in the dating section, I just know it's always something attacking me with. Always. Even when I've bever addressed you in the thread. ALWAYS. I wonder what would that prove in a court of law. A ha, projection of hatred. Go sit down somewhere and worry about why you hate women so much and stop projecting that hatred unto me please. I'm so sick of you in this section. Only section I can't tolerate your comments in because they're always attacking me of some sort. Go away.

Some people cannot look past gender - I have the same experience as you here. 

In the end it only limits them. Blocks truth.

[Princess Arabia]

51 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess ArabiaHow many 'real' men have you found in your life? And why dont you have any? Your 'real' men are prince charming in a Disney movie you watched.

Don't worry about me and my real or fake men. Do you see i'm asking for advice on any dating. Do you see I'm worried about myself in this arena? Why are you? Don't test me because you already know I don't bite my tongue and will sting harder than you can see that bee coming.

Edited Sunday at 07:35 PM by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

24 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Some people cannot look past gender - I have the same experience as you here. 

In the end it only limits them. Blocks truth.

It's only with this incel  who likes to project his incellations unto me. The others will come at me accordingly, meaning in the moment if they genuinely disagree with me or something. This one here just usually picks at me in this section no matter what I say and who I'm talking to. He doesn't realize one can feel this energy especially when they've done nothing to you personally but they're always personally attacking you,but only in this section. His dating comments never have anything good to say about women. Ugg, somethings are so obvious. I refuse to be abused by some incel's rage bait. 

Edited Sunday at 07:53 PM by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

Considering the title of this thread it's only appropriate (if done respectfully and within guidelines) that a female would jump on this title and say something in opposition as long as it's not done in an argumentative type of way. I was just responding with another video I saw on yt showing women with AI partners too. Real or not I don't know and it's probably fake, who cares but no need to come at me with where are your partners. Even if he thinks that's the end of women, that's his prerogative to think and feel real men are going to give up on the touch of a real woman because he doesn't take the time to know and appreciate women for who they are and looks to AI for a substitute because it's easier.