Conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, has been shot and killed at University

[Inliytened1]

22 minutes ago, ricachica said:

@Inliytened1 Is this not unstable and extreme? https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOewj1ZAOIn/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Man you must be really scouring the internet 🙄 

[Shane Hanlon]

23 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

He is deep left- and sometimes he gets quite extreme with his views.  Whether you want to see that or not.  To me I have no idea given his spiritual level that he could be this deep left but he is.  So we must be careful on its effect on the youth  there's many unstable people out there and when you start introducing the fascist term you bring up thoughts of the Holocaust.  I don't want that to be but it is.  

Deep and careful systemic change that makes life more equitable for all will open up a path that life can flourish in. Otherwise we are all in trouble.

Currently, the left is closer to championing something like that than the right is. That is why the most sane, informed, and loving stance is currently considered "deep left".

[ricachica]

@Inliytened1 No, I just live 15mins from HB😂 they post up a lot like this here when there’s a relatable event to them

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, ricachica said:

@Inliytened1 No, I just live 15mins from HB😂 they post up a lot like this here when there’s a relatable event to them

The right is really messed up.  I never denied that.  But the crazy thing is the left is worse.

[ExploringReality]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

The right is really messed up.  I never denied that.  But the crazy thing is the left is worse.

Examples! Please 

[Elliott]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

The right is really messed up.  I never denied that.  But the crazy thing is the left is worse.

Drivel

[Inliytened1]

9 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

Examples! Please 

Seriously?  Kirk shooting?

You guys baffle me

 

Edited Saturday at 02:39 AM by Inliytened1

[Pox]

is anyone talking about this?

this is insane to admit lmaooooo

he prayed that the shooter isn't white? like wtf???????

so what? he's not white so you can have someone to blame? instead of running away from the truth of your own flaws?

makes no sense at all, america is so cooked

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Pox said:

is anyone talking about this?

this is insane to admit lmaooooo

he prayed that the shooter isn't white? like wtf???????

so what? he's not white so you can have someone to blame? instead of running away from the truth of your own flaws?

makes no sense at all, america is so cooked

I think he meant that he hoped he wasn't from Utah. Still it introduced tones of bias and racism into it.  It's so obvious. 

Edited Saturday at 02:42 AM by Inliytened1

[Joshe]

@Inliytened1 I noticed you usually see clearly until there's a massive, successful propaganda effort. You fell for the 2024 election propaganda and now you're falling for this propaganda that the left is the primary driver of division and hatred. You actually thought Biden caused inflation and high grocery prices. You thought that because there was mass propaganda and a huge movement of people saying it. The same thing is happening to you now with the Charlie Kirk situation. 

[ricachica]

18 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

The right is really messed up.  I never denied that.  But the crazy thing is the left is worse.

@Inliytened1 I don’t really know Kirk that much to be honest, so what about Kirk makes those men on the HB pier relate to him so much?

[Elliott]

19 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I think he meant that he hoped he wasn't from Utah. Still it introduced tones of bias and racism into it.  It's so obvious. 

He didn't just say state, he also said "or a different country" typical overt outright bigotry from Republicans, Immediately after these words he dogged liberal cities. It's vile hate.

Edited Saturday at 03:00 AM by Elliott

[ExploringReality]

15 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Seriously?  Kirk shooting?

You guys baffle me

 

You said the left is worst. I'm genuinely asking you, not mocking 

[Joshe]

4 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Jesus christ dude, show us some leftist rhetoric that incites this.

He’s operating on bias and vibes. You won’t be able to change his mind on this with facts, logic, and reason. Willful ignorance has already taken hold on this topic.

[Inliytened1]

25 minutes ago, Joshe said:

@Inliytened1 I noticed you usually see clearly until there's a massive, successful propaganda effort. You fell for the 2024 election propaganda and now you're falling for this propaganda that the left is the primary driver of division and hatred. You actually thought Biden caused inflation and high grocery prices. You thought that because there was mass propaganda and a huge movement of people saying it. The same thing is happening to you now with the Charlie Kirk situation. 

Fair.  I didn't say Biden caused it i said he wasn't fixing it.  And I realize now that fixing inflation is a losing effort by both parties but growing the economy is the answer which hasn't happened under this administration. I understand that Trump claims the tarrifs will ultimately lead to a stronger economy and thus higher salaries to combat inflation but i honestly don't have a lot of faith in that.

What does this have to do with violent propaganda being pushed on both sides? Its being pushed on both but we are on a very left forum so it's very valid to point that out here

Edited Saturday at 03:09 AM by Inliytened1

[Pox]

28 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Seriously?  Kirk shooting?

You guys baffle me

 

apparently the horrible person charlie kirk deserves more attention for dying than them

 

Edited Saturday at 03:05 AM by Pox

[Pox]

[Joshe]

@Inliytened1 The mistake is taking the actions of a single radicalized person and saying “that’s the left”. When in reality, more than 99% of the left would not engage in political violence. Just like the majority of the right wouldn’t. There’s a very small number of people who would actually choose to engage in political violence - but that number just skyrocketed. 

Nearly all prominent leaders and influencers on the side you’re arguing is less toxic has collectively said the entire left is the enemy, and they vowed to go to war with and put an end to their enemy, all because of one radicalized person. THAT skyrocketed the number of people now ready to engage in political violence by orders of magnitude higher than the killing itself. The propaganda won’t tell you that, so you have to see it for yourself. 

Also, Trump ushered in political violence. He’s the only politician to ever say something like “maybe the 2nd amendment people need to take care of Hillary” or “punch him in the face, I’ll get you out of jail”, or “i wish someone would take out the fake news media”, and dozens of other mentions of violence. He says shit like this and the crowd goes fucking wild. They love it.

No other politician has ever said things like this to their base. And the people thought it a good idea to make this guy leader. Kirk would likely still be alive if the people were not so stupid to vote for such a despicable character. 

Edited Saturday at 03:36 AM by Joshe

[Inliytened1]

7 minutes ago, Joshe said:

@Inliytened1 The mistake is taking the actions of a single radicalized person and saying “that’s the left”. When in reality, more than 99% of the left would not engage in political violence. Just like the majority of the right wouldn’t. There’s a very small number of people who would actually choose to engage in political violence - but that number just skyrocketed. 

Nearly all prominent leaders and influencers on the side you’re arguing is less toxic has collectively said the entire left is the enemy, and they vowed to put an end to the left and go to war with them, all because one radicalized person. THAT skyrocketed the number of people now ready to engage in political violence by orders of magnitude higher than the killing itself. The propaganda won’t tell you that, so you have to see it for yourself. 

Well Leo calling the right fascist even in this very thread does not help this effort. It really can brainwash people into thinking that society is doomed if the left does not prevail.  Some people (even the very few) - the 1% will take things literally to the core.  It's gonna take a bipartisan effort to curve hatred.

 

[Hojo]

@Inliytened1He is saying that half the population is the enemy and that he needs to shut them down. When can he say its fascism ? When its happening?

This video trump released was like an hour after it happened with 0 evidence of anything. The leader of the military is saying the left have to be stopped and fought against based of 0 evidence of anything.

Should the leader of the country have confirmation bias and use events to drive political divide between the parties in the country? Isnt the president both sides? This is leadership of the country and alot are saying it. This is weird.

Edited Saturday at 04:16 AM by Hojo