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Good Looking but Still Invisible to Women — What Am I Missing?

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7 hours ago, Magnanimous said:

@Leo Gura Is pickup worth doing/mastering for social skills alone? Social/leadership LP here

You didn’t ask me, but “mastering” pickup is not worth the opportunity cost. 

There are transferable skills but a lot of them are extremely specific and it’s very time-intensive to get to mastery level. You would have to make it almost a full-time job for several years to reach “mastery” unless you have very high natural talent. 

It’s like trying to “master” skiing or billiards. Not worth it for most people, doesn’t mean you can’t go skiing sometimes or play pool. 

Another way of putting it that’s more analogous, is whether, in sales, it’s worth it to master cold-calling. Probably not—there are many other way more efficient marketing funnels. Doesn’t mean you can’t cold-call sometimes but you don’t need to master it like the Wolf of Wall Street guy. 

Night game, in particular, is one of the most exhausting and self-destructive things you can do to yourself. Even if you don’t drink. 

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@Leo Gura what do you consider as a big city, Leo? Can it be like 800k oder u mean a million city?

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Pickup is like MMA it is a mixed art. Very few people who understand it. Owen Cook will teach you the mindset you need but he won’t teach you the tactics because he doesn’t want to be canceled. Mystery has a M3 model which is the best value for your time and the book is free. You can take his live course but it costs like 3k usd for 3 days. He is the only person worth that money because you work in small groups and he is an OG. I would like to see him in person but unfortunately I live too far away. Although Owen Cook’s material is good, he is an autistic OCD monkey all over the place. His videos are not worth the squeeze. Just run it through AI and get a quick summary of his 3+ hour videos.

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On 8/29/2025 at 6:30 PM, Leo Gura said:

@czar24 Just hatch a plan to live and work in a big city with great nightlife. That really is the foundation to dating success. It is a numbers game.

 

I mean maybe for getting laid.

But surely Vegas, NYC, Miami are terrible for serious long-term dating. 

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6 hours ago, PenguinPablo said:

But surely Vegas, NYC, Miami are terrible for serious long-term dating. 

Why do you think that?


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@czar24 Pickup and dating is an emotional dance. Being good looking helps a lot but if you're autistic or closed off with your communication won't help. I'm a 6'4 model looking dude and I've struggled a lot in life with it. 

Best thing to do is:

- 1000 cold approaches. 

- Building a community of wingmen and people to reflect on your seduction skills from a third person and also see them in action.

- Building a wide social circle that puts you in a position of authority, access and status.

You live 2 hours from Miami. The best geographical area on earth to do cold approach pickup and social circle game. If you take this seriously 6 months from now you'll have so many women in your life it'll become a liability to all the other areas of it. 


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@Miguel1

Vegas lots of tourists coming and going which a lot of the girls you'll be gaming. Otherwise your pool of potential mates is much smaller.

Vegas though attracts a lot of misfits and people from other states so it's like a city ran by outsiders. There is a sense of camaraderie and everyone lifts each other up.

NYC hypergamy. Most success driven city in the world. 

Miami also kinda shallow vibe. But maybe I'd put it as number one because of Spanish speaking Latinas those are more down to earth. Also similar hypergamy issues as NYC hamster wheel hustle culture.

 

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All the problem is in your pp.

People are responsible for their frequency; the frequency correspondence between the pp of ops and their problem is proof of this.


Nothing will prevent Willy.

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2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

All the problem is in your pp.

People are responsible for their frequency; the frequency correspondence between the pp of ops and their problem is proof of this.

So in other words.... 

Let's hear your pure, unfiltered response. Let it rip bro. lol 

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13 hours ago, PenguinPablo said:

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NYC hypergamy. Most success driven city in the world. 

NYC sucks in many ways but it has 20 million people in the metro area, you can find all kinds of people. The “hypergamy” you describe (I hesitate to agree that’s what it is) is specific to club culture, there are lots of women who want all kinds of relationships. 

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