Good Looking but Still Invisible to Women — What Am I Missing?

[czar24]

I've been struggling with something for the last 3 years. It's gotten to the point where I can't even focus on business anymore.

Over the last 3 years, I’ve been building my physique and working on my web design portfolio—teaching myself web design from scratch and staying in work mode constantly.

But here’s the problem:
Women don’t seem to find that attractive.
And most people don’t find that kind of tunnel vision appealing in a guy they’d want to be around or hang out with.

I’ve struggled deeply over these 3 years to form any meaningful relationships with women.

I thought that grinding hard and building a strong body would eventually make cold approach easier. I believed that if I became disciplined and attractive, things would fall into place.

Three years ago, I moved from New York City to Marathon, Florida—a small, touristy town.
I even posted on r/seduction along with a picture of my physique, and people there couldn’t believe I struggled with women.

But the reality is: I’m a 6’4", jacked, muscular, good-looking guy… and still feel like an incel.
None of it made things better for me socially or romantically.

About two weeks ago, I got into a scooter accident. I fractured the radial bone in my left arm and suffered friction burns and contusions on my right hand.

My right hand is healing—I can write and hold things again, although my pinky still hurts.

I think the accident happened to break my reliance on my looks and force me into a position where I now have to develop real, core self-confidence…
Unconditional self-love…
An indestructible inner frame.

But here’s the truth:
I don’t know how to build that frame.
I know it’s my responsibility—but I don’t know what specific steps to take.
I don’t know what exercises or practices I should be doing.

I’ve tried breathwork.
I’ve tried meditation—and to be honest, I have experienced positive results from it.
Whenever I meditate consistently, women seem to genuinely enjoy being around me more.

But I’ve failed to make those effects long-lasting.

As an actionable next step, I’m considering purchasing RSD’s Hot Seat at Home with Owen Cook.
Has anyone here tried it?
Did it actually help you?
Have you seen results from it?

It feels like the least I can do for now—until I find a more effective solution.

Leo always says a “good wingman is worth more than any $10,000 bootcamp.”
The problem is, I don’t even have access to a wingman.
A guy offered to wing with me in Miami, but he’s only free on weekends.
My job only gives me weekdays off, so it didn’t work out.

So my question is:
What do you think a guy in my position should do?

Edited 11 hours ago by czar24

[Joshe]

If you’re 6’4, jacked, and attractive, just go to Key West and stroll up and down Duval street from Truman Ave all the way down to Front St. from 7PM-2AM. Spend more time around the 200 and 300 block. Hoards of loose girls will notice you and many of them will talk to you as they pass. Or, you can just post up right outside Sloppy Joes and we can watch you on their live web cam. Lol. 

I used to work on Duval St. and saw shit on a daily basis that would blow my mind - especially at night. There’s no way a tall, good looking jacked dude walks down that street for a few hours without a sex offer. Very little game, if any, required. Even I was called out a few times and I’m 5’7 and not that attractive. 

Maybe you can do that to build momentum and to not feel like an incel. Once you break that spell, maybe start hanging around Marathon at the Sunset Grill by the pool with your shirt off sipping a cocktail. Stay away from the Brass Monkey though. Lol. Seriously. 

I used to like a bar in Big Pine called Coconuts, but I think it’s changed a lot, for the worse, but still could be good for Fri and Sat night adventures. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Joshe

[Joshe]

Actually, I think this is a bot account who has picked up on recent posts about grinding web design and mention of the Fl keys. 

Jesus. What a waste of time. Bots seem to be becoming a real problem. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Joshe

[czar24]

I sing karaoke at the brass monkey every Monday. Why should I stay away from there? Also, do you currently reside in Key West?
I think I have lost most of the muscle now and won't have it for at least seven months now that I am recovering from an accident where i broke my left wrist. Do you think it would still benefit me to try and game in Key West? Why would it be easier in Key West than Marathon? What would you say the difference is?

 

[czar24]

And i'm not a bot

Edited 11 hours ago by czar24

[theleelajoker]

1 hour ago, czar24 said:

So my question is:
What do you think a guy in my position should do?

Forget about all strategies on how to achieve XYZ. Stop looking for a solution, a puzzle piece. 

Talk to people. As authentic as possible. Say you're shy if your shy. Everyone is in some way or another. 

I met girls that became interested in me a day where I felt so shitty about myself that I barely could leave the house. 

Women even got interested in my when I was an unattractive teenager with bad skin. Why? I don't know but I never followed a strategy on 'how to attract women" back then.

Stop projecting like "I am XYZ " or "women feel like ABC" about me. Some time ago, I talked to a girl in a restaurant, sitting alone on the table next to me. Later she was like "why you approached me?" I told her it went, and that I had a doubt because why should a beautiful woman like her be interested in me and not in 1000 seemingly more attractive guys? 

She smiled. "You wondered why you? Well, why not you?"

Turned out she really liked me since she saw me, and I liked her.

Bottom line: thoughts can become assumptions, projections. They need to be tested. At least 99% of time, they're wrong and / or incomplete 

Edited 11 hours ago by theleelajoker

[czar24]

@theleelajoker This post has disappeared for some reason. I think @Joshe managed to convince them I'm fake. I enjoyed talking to him as well. Was looking forward to learning more about the dating scene in Key West.

Anyway. Thank you for responding. I have tried this being that most of my approaches tend to be direct openers and I get rejected right off the bat. 
I noticed that when I go indirect I can feel them pulling away from me but most of my approaches have been in grocery stores. Not an ideal place for sure but it is the only place I meet multitudes of beautiful women.

[aurum]

@czar24 How many new women are you meeting each week?

[UnbornTao]

If you're not a bot, you certainly seem to have used AI to write your post.

Are you, by any chance, a former user who might have been creating new accounts lately - and using AI for their posts?

Edited 10 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Schizophonia]

6 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

If you're not a bot, you definitely seem to have used AI to write your post.

?

[czar24]

@UnbornTao I’m not sure if you’ve seen the picture above, but my right arm’s wrapped in bandages and my left arm’s in a cast. That leaves me with only one option—voice-to-text typing. The problem is, it sometimes throws in a few grammatical errors, so I run it through ChatGPT to clean things up.

[UnbornTao]

@Schizophonia That's directed at OP.

[UnbornTao]

8 minutes ago, czar24 said:

@UnbornTao I’m not sure if you’ve seen the picture above, but my right arm’s wrapped in bandages and my left arm’s in a cast. That leaves me with only one option—voice-to-text typing. The problem is, it sometimes throws in a few grammatical errors, so I run it through ChatGPT to clean things up.

I see. I'm going to take your word for it, then.

Welcome!

Edited 10 hours ago by UnbornTao

[czar24]

@aurum3-4 a day. I know. In most circumstances, that is considered a warm-up. However, I don't live in a major metropolitan area where beautiful women are in abundant supply on sidewalks, park benches, movie theatres..etc

[Schizophonia]

14 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

@Schizophonia That's directed at OP.

I know.

I just didn't see why it would be suspected to be AI.

Nevermind.

[UnbornTao]

Just now, Schizophonia said:

I know.

I just didn't see why it would be suspected to be AI.

Nevermind.

Take a look at the first post. 

[Raze]

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Edited 9 hours ago by Raze

[aurum]

26 minutes ago, czar24 said:

@aurum3-4 a day. I know. In most circumstances, that is considered a warm-up. However, I don't live in a major metropolitan area where beautiful women are in abundant supply on sidewalks, park benches, movie theatres..etc

3-4 a day is actually pretty good if they are quality.

If they’re just quick openers that don’t actually lead to a conversation, then I’d say you want to bump that up. You could do those all day and get no where. You need quality.

If you need more options, why not move to Miami? You’re like a two hour drive from the best nightlife in the world.

[czar24]

@aurum Too expensive to move to Miami.

[Princess Arabia]

To tell you the truth, and without sounding insulting, which I'm not trying to be, just being upfront and honest, I don't find your physical-looking type sexually attractive. Nothing about you personally or your personality; I'm just not into that body-type. I just like a regular look, if there are muscles, it's in proportion to the rest of his body and not that much forced or from a lot of gym work out.  In fact, when I see guys with your look and body-type, I tend to look away. That's just me and doesn't mean anything as far as what other females might find attractive.

Thing is, though, say I got to know you personally under different circumstances, say, at a social event or mutual friend or whatever, and I found you to be charming, a bit funny maybe witty and I just loved your personality, that attraction could change and I could then be extremely attracted to you; same would go for a guy I found physically sexually/attractive but getting to know him was a turn off and that attraction just went zoops. Personality, for me, is the final deciding factor on how the body will respond.