Debunking Solipsism

[Sincerity]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You're being too humble.

That's not humility. It's ignorance.

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Take the famous utterance, "I AM GOD." Some people think this is a great pretension, but "I am God" is in fact a great humility. Those who say, instead, "I am a servant of God" believe that two exist, themselves and God. But those who say, "I am God" have become nothing and have cast themselves to the winds. They say, "I am God" meaning, "I am not, God is all. There is no existence but God. I have lost all separation. I am nothing." In this the humility is greater. (Rumi)

In order to be humble, one must be conscious of themselves. If they're not, it's fake humility.

[OBEler]

31 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You guys still aren't understanding what God is.

You are God. The one and only. You're still thinking that you are part of God rather than God itself. You're being too humble.

On 1.8.2025 at 1:08 PM, Someone here said:

 

 

But isn't it possible for God to split itself to parts of God? Then you are really a part of God and not God anymore.

[Wilhelm44]

32 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You guys still aren't understanding what God is.

You are God. The one and only. You're still thinking that you are part of God rather than God itself. You're being too humble.

This still does not exclude the possibility that all dream characters have the potential to realize That. The One and the apparent many.

[Meeksauce]

52 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You guys still aren't understanding what God is.

You are God. The one and only. You're still thinking that you are part of God rather than God itself. You're being too humble.

If this is true, that means you and everyone else on here don't have any experience whatsoever. If anyone on here has an experience, just know that it disproves solipsism because I have one 1,000,000% beyond a shadow of a doubt. But you would never be able to tell me you do because your word on this means nothing. But if Leo is right, all hail me😎 everyone bow down to me peasants!! You guys should contemplate the fact that you have no experience. I bet it would be possible to realize on a 5meo trip that your existence never happened and you were actually just a non-existent dream character inside some random guy on the actualized.org forum's mind. Now that would be mind blowing

On 8/1/2025 at 8:25 AM, Hojo said:

@Meeksauce are you saying you need a second to verify that the first has them all? In that case I would argue then you need a third to meditate the 2 cause the 2nd could be lying.

Wait sorry which point is this referring to?

On 8/1/2025 at 7:56 AM, Someone here said:

with all honesty I have no clue . Leo says go get wasted on 5 meo a hundred times and then you will get it and it will stick. So I'm setting that as a goal .but my gut feeling is that solipsism is obviously true despite how radical and far fetched it seems . Because there is a lot of suspicious phenomenon in life that points to this .but the bottom line is I'm agnostic about it .

 

On 8/1/2025 at 7:44 AM, Wilhelm44 said:

Likewise it's also impossible to prove solipsism. 

On 8/1/2025 at 7:44 AM, Wilhelm44 said:

 

Edited Sunday at 09:33 AM by Meeksauce

[Daniel Balan]

54 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You are hallucinating taking that photo.

You're not appreciating the depth of this issue.

You are not seeing that absolutely any evidence you can think of it a hallucination.

You can't even claim that you read books about WW2 because you hallucinated ever reading a single book!

ALL of the past is a hallucination. So you can't even claim something existed 5 minutes ago.

 

Thanks Leo for all your responses! I have just begun this work and I hope one day I will be able to validate for myself the solipsism perspective! Thanks a lot once again

[Unlimited]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You guys still aren't understanding what God is.

Not all of us. 

[r0ckyreed]

I still don’t understand The Infinity of Gods awakening/episode. I have validated Absolute Solipsism in my direct experience and awakenings. I haven’t validated Infinity of Gods because I am hallucinating all other minds and all other Gods. 

[Hojo]

 

5 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Yes there is ultimate Unity, but that does not disprove the possibility that all these dream characters have the potential to realize ultimate Unity consciousness for themselves ?

Like an octopus analogy.

Yea but when you see you are the tentacle you can go up to be the octopus and realize you are the octopus and all its tentacles. Even the other tentacles you thought were other people. You can unify at the top and see you are all the tentacles. The second you realize you are the octopus and all its tentacles every tentacle awakens.

If there are 5 fingers on a hand and you are one finger and you think the other fingers are different people then you awaken and see you are the whole hand making up the 5 people in the fingers. Who else on the hand is going to awaken if you see you are the hand making up the fingers. The other fingers could awaken and see they are the hand but they would be seeing they are you, the hand and you are them.

How can the other fingers awaken if you are already the hand that the fingers are asleep on

 

Edited Sunday at 12:11 PM by Hojo

[Wilhelm44]

33 minutes ago, Hojo said:

 

Yea but when you see you are the tentacle you can go up to be the octopus and realize you are the octopus and all its tentacles. Even the other tentacles you thought were other people. You can unify at the top and see you are all the tentacles. The second you realize you are the octopus and all its tentacles every tentacle awakens.

If there are 5 fingers on a hand and you are one finger and you think the other fingers are different people then you awaken and see you are the whole hand making up the 5 people in the fingers. Who else on the hand is going to awaken if you see you are the hand making up the fingers. The other fingers could awaken and see they are the hand but they would be seeing they are you, the hand and you are them.

How can the other fingers awaken if you are already the hand that the fingers are asleep on

 

But thats precisely it, the other fingers can also awaken and see that they actually are the whole. You yourself at one point believed yourself to be just a finger no different from the way the other fingers see themselves. Which means the vehicle you used to awaken is just as imaginary as all the other vehicles. Why should you have a more special claim to Consciousness than any of the other fingers ? Saying that the apparent others cant awaken because they are imaginary, does not make sense, because you as a finger/tentacle are also imaginary.

[OBEler]

1 hour ago, r0ckyreed said:

I still don’t understand The Infinity of Gods awakening/episode. I have validated Absolute Solipsism in my direct experience and awakenings. I haven’t validated Infinity of Gods because I am hallucinating all other minds and all other Gods. 

On 1.8.2025 at 1:08 PM, Someone here said:

 

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Very simple.you hallucinate other gods, right? Well why can't other gods do that too what you do.to infinity.

 

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, OBEler said:

But isn't it possible for God to split itself to parts of God? Then you are really a part of God and not God anymore.

You are free to imagine you are not God.

That works unless somehow your consciousness radically rises, at which point you can no longer act ignorant.

Edited Sunday at 01:23 PM by Leo Gura

[Hojo]

@Wilhelm44 Those other fingers are you pretending to not be the hand. You are imagining that the fingers are someone else they are you the hand.

[Wilhelm44]

31 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Wilhelm44 Those other fingers are you pretending to not be the hand. You are imagining that the fingers are someone else they are you the hand.

Yes, from the ultimate level there is just One. Still, if you have awakened to solipsism, whats the sense in telling me about it ?  Also, Leo is brilliant, but somehow he is the only prominent teacher in all of history that teaches solipsism. 

[Hojo]

@Wilhelm44 Cause there's nothing else to do but wake up the other fingers and embody the hand. You just go around telling the fingers about the hand that they are so they can stop stressing out about nothing.

After buddha enlightened infinite being he asked God whats next and God showed him infinite other beings to enlighten. Thats life theres no end game life is the game.

Edited Sunday at 03:28 PM by Hojo

[SOUL]

I cannot imagine anyone would spend this much time, energy and words arguing with the appearance of others about solipsism, yet here it is. It's like imagining that you are playing ping pong with yourself and still losing the game.

[Leo Gura]

26 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Also, Leo is brilliant, but somehow he is the only prominent teacher in all of history that teaches solipsism. 

"What about others?"

"There is no other." -- Ramana Maharshi

[Leo Gura]

19 minutes ago, SOUL said:

It's like imagining that you are playing ping pong with yourself and still losing the game.

That's exactly what ping-pong is.

That's what life is, a lonely God playing a game of chess against itself.

Edited Sunday at 03:44 PM by Leo Gura

[Wilhelm44]

21 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Wilhelm44 Cause there's nothing else to do but wake up the other fingers and embody the hand. You just go around telling the fingers about the hand that they are so they can stop stressing out about nothing.

After buddha enlightened infinite being he asked God whats next and God showed him infinite other beings to enlighten. Thats life theres no end game life is the game.

Well now you are basically admitting the validity of apparent others who have the potential to wake up to God.

[Wilhelm44]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

"What about others?"

"There is no other." -- Ramana Maharshi

Of course from the Absolute level there are no others. But in the relative level, Ramana didnt say that apparent others dont have minds. 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 03:59 PM by Wilhelm44

[Wilhelm44]

Yeah, why would a solipsistic sage tell apparent others about solipsism, if those apparent others didnt have minds of their own ?