What is femininity ?

[OBEler]

@Natasha Tori Maru You misunderstand me. I don't want to attack you. I want to point to the difference between men and women.

You thank a user "for remarking you not an emotional basket case " in this discussion. So you are more interested that you feel good that what's really true. That's typical feminine. I want to point that out. Its nothing wrong with that. It's just the way it is.

I now understand also better why girls rarely engage in forums like we men do. Because a healthy discussion is normally looking for truth. And girls just look that they and others feel good. A discussion could destroy that. They value harmony and good feelings more than truth.

Edited yesterday at 12:16 PM by OBEler

[Schizophonia]

33 minutes ago, Judy2 said:

well, i feel flattered:)

29 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Schizophonia Thank you - really appreciated!

 

 

Thanks, it's normal i'm a nisssse gueuïe

[Xonas Pitfall]

Nisssse Silly Gueuïeoosee!

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Natasha Tori Maru You misunderstand me. I don't want to attack you. I want to point to the difference between men and women.

You thank a user "for remarking you not an emotional basket case " in this discussion. So you are more interested that you feel good that what's really true. That's typical feminine. I want to point that out. Its nothing wrong with that. It's just the way it is.

But that isn't gender specific. You haven't argued the case, just made a statement.

I thanked him because it IS true. I'm not emotionally erratic. 

Why are you telling me the reason why I thanked him? You don't know the reason - it's an assumption.

[Schizophonia]

9 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Natasha Tori Maru You misunderstand me. I don't want to attack you. I want to point to the difference between men and women.

You thank a user "for remarking you not an emotional basket case " in this discussion. So you are more interested that you feel good that what's really true. That's typical feminine. I want to point that out. Its nothing wrong with that. It's just the way it is.

One doesn't preclude the other.
I'm still waiting for you to show me all the super hot girls who've been banned. In the meantime, you're the one who's emotional.
Because if you were that rational, you'd show examples, and you wouldn't be so bothered by girls acting like girls here and there, because of energetic polarity.

Edited yesterday at 12:19 PM by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

Nisssse Silly Gueuïeoosee!

 

quack quack

[OBEler]

@Natasha Tori Maru "Why are you telling me the reason why I thanked him? You don't know the reason - it's an assumption."

You already confirmed my assumption. You wrote you thanked him "for remarking you not an emotional basket case ".  It's just about your feelings.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, OBEler said:

@Natasha Tori Maru "Why are you telling me the reason why I thanked him? You don't know the reason - it's an assumption."

You already confirmed my assumption. You wrote you thanked him "for remarking you not an emotional basket case ".  It's just about your feelings.

No, it's the truth.

[Schizophonia]

8 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

 

Thanks, it's normal i'm a nisssse gueuïe

@Emerald Not you, you're punished for your Jungian nonsense.

Take that

 

@Xonas Pitfall It's still cope i know plenty of attractive people who are humble.

Even often attractive people are kinder because of lesser frustration/traumas of course. 

 

Edited yesterday at 12:23 PM by Schizophonia

[Xonas Pitfall]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

@Xonas Pitfall It's still cope i know plenty of attractive people who are humble.

Even often attractive people are kinder because of lesser frustration/traumas of course. 

100%! I was just pointing out the gender bias happening, both can be crazy crazy ones! 😅

[OBEler]

@Natasha Tori Maru if it's really about  thanking him for telling truth, then why did you wrote by yourself that you thank him for feeling better?

Again you thanked him "for remarking you not an emotional basket case ". Where did you wrote that you thank him for the contribution to this discussion to reveal the truth ?

Edited yesterday at 12:27 PM by OBEler

[Xonas Pitfall]

20 minutes ago, OBEler said:

You are more interested that you feel good that what's really true. That's typical feminine. I want to point that out. Its nothing wrong with that. It's just the way it is.

Again, this behavior isn’t gender-specific. People love hearing things that soothe them. That’s how cults persuade people, how political parties gain support. Who do you think brought Andrew Tate, Trump, and Hitler to prominence? Do you think it was women? Men also love hearing things that soothe them, and once you can whisper those things into their minds, they, too, can be easily controlled, manipulated, and will submit to whoever the authority figure whispering sweet words is.

Another good example is when it was publicly believed that women were too stupid for schools. "Women can't do this... All this logic thinking it's a 'guy thing'!" Now that the majority of women are outperforming men in schools, suddenly the 'narrative' is: 'Well... uh, schools are just made better for women because it’s all about brainless memorization and people-pleasing to authority. Men like sports and activity more.' Instead of acknowledging that men are failing currently in the very system that was originally designed to cater to them.

Plus, I think she was just accepting a cute compliment. Teehee >.<

Edited yesterday at 12:30 PM by Xonas Pitfall

[Princess Arabia]

6 hours ago, Jayson G said:

@Emerald Maybe in a club, if she comes home with the guy I could see that possibility. But imagine if a guy meets a girl at a bus stop, and has a casual conversation for some time, and he casually asks her if she'd want to go out. 

That is also pickup, and I'm sure there are women who aren't really crazy at all who'd be receptive to that. 

I think there are many versions of pickup. Not all is club-oriented. I think to say one has to be a little crazy to be receptive to it is just not true honestly. 

Much of mating is just a natural form of pickup. Guys pursue girls, and girls want to be approached. I think its completely normal. Pickup doesn't have to be this elaborate hardcore strategic thing, or just some club game or whatever. 

Why is it that it's the female being possibly unstable if she goes home with a guy from the club and not the guy also being unstable to take home a woman from the club. I 'm only referring to your first statement. I understand why it would be viewed that way because women are more prized than men are in this domain. Men are usually praised for their sexual conquests while women 'depraised' because of worth issues. Women will be viewed as loose and maybe unstable while nothing but praise and a win for the men simply because women are the prize. Another insinuation there in your first comment and this is just an opinion of mine and not suggesting you feel the same. 

[Princess Arabia]

In most of my past relationships it was the men who were the emotional basket cases and I was the cool more stable one. I've never had a guy leave me because I was an emotional basket case. Infact, most of them wanted me back and were apologetic for their 'basket case' behaviors and these were masculine men. This isn't a gender issue it's an attractor factor issue and energy vampire relative issue. I would attract the basket cases because that's what empaths usually attract; the narcissists and the basket cases. It wasn't revealed at first, but later on it revealed itself and that energy was too much for me to endure.

[Xonas Pitfall]

@Princess Arabia Your profile picture looks like it’s straight out of an epic retro 80s musical aerobics and Pilates weight loss training video! I'd totally get your tape, neon headbands, and leg warmers!  

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

@Princess Arabia Your profile picture looks like it’s straight out of an epic retro 80s musical aerobics and Pilates weight loss training video! I'd totally get your tape, neon headbands, and leg warmers!  

Lmao. It was taken awhile back in my modeling days. Thought I'd go old school for a minute and reminisce. Hehe. Not that way back, though.

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, OBEler said:

@Natasha Tori Maru if it's really about  thanking him for telling truth, then why did you wrote by yourself that you thank him for feeling better?

Again you thanked him "for remarking you not an emotional basket case ". Where did you wrote that you thank him for the contribution to this discussion to reveal the truth ?

You have pathologized the dichotomy. You essentially equate masculinity with autism and femininity with borderline personality disorder. That's just a very specific type and an extreme case of the dichotomy. If you take arguably one of the most general distinctions in reality and you project pathology onto it, that says more about you than the distinction. And you seemingly heavily identify with one part of the dichotomy because it validates your pathology. "I'm masculine => now I don't have to care about your feelings".

Edited yesterday at 02:30 PM by Carl-Richard

[OBEler]

@Carl-Richard i want to point to something that the the feminine is different than that from men in specific things. It's easier to point to more extremes so it becomes obvious. 

If you ignore what I want to say and hing on the concepts and meaning of words I use then this is pretty annoying.

Just look the last post what I want to point to without becoming too technical about words. 

[Emerald]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

@Emerald Not you, you're punished for your Jungian nonsense.

Take that

Says the Freudian enthusiast... 

I only gravitated towards the Jungain perspective because it was the only available perspective that matched up with my lived experience of the inner world and helped me understand my experiences of ego de-centering.

Finding Jung's work and the work of other Jungian authors in my early 20s was a godsend because it helped me orient myself to my inner world, which was previously all in shambles from the recent crumblings of previous paradigms and identities.

Jung had a deep mystical awareness (and the ability to communicate that mystical awareness in such a way that the science-minded folks of the Victorian era could respect and grok what he was communicating).

And his work was based in the spiritual instinct such that it transcended the Victorian era trappings and became timeless.

Freud, on the other hand, boiled everything down to the sexual instinct. And all of his stuff was so mired in the repressive Victorian sexual norms that it isn't even a relevant perspective in our modern era.

And that's because he only went as deep as the material paradigm (of which human sexuality is the deepest root). But he failed to recognize the spiritual ground from which all of those instincts arise.

There are very good reasons why Jung diverged from the mentorship of Freud and the student became the master.

Jung > Freud

[Jirh]

"Femininity" is a word. It means different things to different people. It is typically associated with nature, creativity, and cycles.

In harmonious human relationships, femininity tends to be on the receptive end in the beginning, so it takes before it can give. With a feminine person, you reap whatever you sow. They mirror your energy and give you back what you've given them amplified.

Edited 22 hours ago by Jirh